Theoren Fleury

[Paulie Walnuts]

The way this idiot posts its like he played his whole career without the compliance apparatus on his head.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The way this idiot posts its like he played his whole career without the compliance apparatus on his head.

No he is just a kunt

[Matt Reeeeead]

Just remember, this is the stuff can that happen to people when they are molested and abused by authority figures during formative years, with no intervention for many years. Maybe even toss in some major concussions on top of that. Throw in some drug and alcohol abuse as coping mechanisms.

Theo has had a tough road, and its unfortunate that his paranoia, and lack of cognitive functioning is on display because of the platform he earned through his on-ice success.

Its best just to ignore it.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead

Just remember, this is the stuff can that happen to people when they are molested and abused by authority figures during formative years, with no intervention for many years. Maybe even toss in some major concussions on top of that. Throw in some drug and alcohol abuse as coping mechanisms.

Theo has had a tough road, and its unfortunate that his paranoia, and lack of cognitive functioning is on display because of the platform he earned through his on-ice success.

Its best just to ignore it.

see below

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I get your point but there are lot of people that have histories of trauma both physical and mental.


I've said it before, but Sheldon Kennedy is a force for good and experienced a #### tonne of trauma.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Kennedy doesn't seek the limelight and when he does, it's to put his charitable foundation first. He's not going to be controversial and jeopardize the sources of its government and corporate funding. Privately, he's apparently super Conservative.

Fleury's drug of choice now is attention, and it's intoxicating. He's famous for being famous.

[Nancy]

Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead

Just remember, this is the stuff can that happen to people when they are molested and abused by authority figures during formative years, with no intervention for many years. Maybe even toss in some major concussions on top of that. Throw in some drug and alcohol abuse as coping mechanisms.

Theo has had a tough road, and its unfortunate that his paranoia, and lack of cognitive functioning is on display because of the platform he earned through his on-ice success.

Its best just to ignore it.

In his book, Theo claimed that he was not sexually abused. IIRC, his mom was mentally ill and his father an alcoholic, though.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Nancy

In his book, Theo claimed that he was not sexually abused. IIRC, his mom was mentally ill and his father an alcoholic, though.

They're likely referring to the fact Graham James started abusing Theo at the age of 14, which is certainly within his formative years.

[nfotiu]

Everyone is acting like he is on this crazy island by himself and are looking for a reason or excuse. Nobody is wondering if Jamie Sale had something traumitic happen or Danielle Smith, or my uncle who went off the deep end during COVID.

There are millions of North Americans who believe all this crap, and he's just one of them. We all have fond memories of him as a player, but he never came across as the brightest person. Not many people who knew him in the 90s had many nice things to say about him as a person, so it's not exactly surprising to see him go down this path.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who grew up in Oxbow, Saskatchewan who believe all this same crap too, and it didn't take an abusive hockey coach or NHL career to get there.

[Russic]

We can debate how he got here all we want... there's no definitive way to say trauma did this, or concussions, or drugs, or poor parenting, or all of the above. Humans are complicated and we all break in different ways.

What we can do is stop amplifying him. CalgaryPuck is Google's wet dream. Active links, engaged audience, fresh content all the time... talking about him here does legitimately get his message out further than any of us intend. If you want to have this discussion about him, by all means go nuts, but if you wish he'd just disappear into the background, posting in this thread is the opposite of what you want to be doing.

[Matt Reeeeead]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

see below

Let’s be clear here:

I’m not saying if xxxxx happens then yyyyy is guaranteed to happen. Every person is different, has different experiences, perceptions of them, support, and then reactions to them.

There was a lot of messed up stuff that has happened in Theo’s life. He’s accountable for the results that are showing and to change. But I empathize with how it got here, and thought some of the comments towards this current version of him were becoming a bit much.


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[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead

But I empathize with how it got here, and thought some of the comments towards this current version of him were becoming a bit much.

This current version of him is more at home in Sliver’s thread about crackheads.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead

Let’s be clear here:

I’m not saying if xxxxx happens then yyyyy is guaranteed to happen. Every person is different, has different experiences, perceptions of them, support, and then reactions to them.

There was a lot of messed up stuff that has happened in Theo’s life. He’s accountable for the results that are showing and to change. But I empathize with how it got here, and thought some of the comments towards this current version of him were becoming a bit much.


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I can empathize with you empathizing, I've done the same. But this thread is chocked full of outlandish and dangerous conspiracy nonsense that entirely warrants every drop of vitriol he's earned. Within the last week he equated the sexual abuse he's suffered to governmental approaches and policy on a once in a lifetime pandemic.

A bit much? The guy is a total a**hole. There needs to be a conscious effort towards not excusing his current unhinged f***ery on his past, including the fact he was good at skatey-stickey-puckey for the preferred shirts in our shared geographic location.

Theoren Fleury is a piece of s***. Full stop.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I can empathize with you empathizing, I've done the same. But this thread is chocked full of outlandish and dangerous conspiracy nonsense that entirely warrants every drop of vitriol he's earned. Within the last week he equated the sexual abuse he's suffered to governmental approaches and policy on a once in a lifetime pandemic.

A bit much? The guy is a total a**hole. There needs to be a conscious effort towards not excusing his current unhinged f***ery on his past, including the fact he was good at skatey-stickey-puckey for the preferred shirts in our shared geographic location.

Theoren Fleury is a piece of s***. Full stop.

Just for future reference, I'm calling it this from now on. Thanks.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lots of messed up stuff have happened to a lot of people.

That doesn't make it ok to be a piece of trash human being.

How about reversing things and being better and bettering society.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Lots of messed up stuff have happened to a lot of people.

That doesn't make it ok to be a piece of trash human being.

How about reversing things and being better and bettering society.

He is though, just ask him. That’s the thing with the Qanon crowd, society doesn’t know any better and are all sheep, it is only them who can enlighten us to better society.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I'll just never understand the crowd that puts all their problems on Justin Trudeau and make him out to be the devil incarnate, akin to how North Korea portrays US presidents. He might be a POS, but why pedestalize him with this.. devotional hatred that gives him more power and meaning over you than he deserves.

Sure, his government's decisions may have played a part in the downfall of your business or livelihood during the pandemic, but he isn't directly responsible for that or for your entire predicament today.

Sometimes things aren't your fault, but when they happen, they're your responsibility.

Here you have people who were negatively affected by lockdowns still resentful today spouting on tiktok about Trudeau and his cronies starting wildfires and raging deliriously on Twitter instead of being out in their garages or workshops or meeting with prospective business partners to cook up the next thing that's going to erase whatever happened to them as a result of some misfortune outside their control that affected every one.

Some people put their problems on someone else and bitch and deflect to feel emboldened temporarily to help internally justify a bad hand they were dealt, and some take responsibility for their situation and put their effort towards solutions.

Most people have some kind of wonky beliefs, you just have to dig enough. But seeing Theo on the front lines for the jaded, woe is me, victim complex crowd just makes me lose respect for him because he actively chooses moaning and villifying over taking responsibility for his issues, in the same way he took no ###t and the bull by the horns over his playing career and inspired fans and followers.

If only he took the same self-made, no excuse approach to his post-hockey life.

But instead he buddied up with the biggest bunch of sucks and losers and became one of them.

He could be using his celebrity status and platform towards something actually constructive, but instead he chooses this.

That's why as a once fan, it's just disappointing.

[Mathgod]

You're definitely on to something Trent.

When someone embraces the hateful, anti-science, climate change denying, Ayn Rand worshipping, "get the lazy leaches off the government teat so they can learn to be responsible and self-reliant" line of thinking, it kind of doesn't make sense when people then use that person's past traumas as a reason to give him leniancy and sympathy when he spews lies and hateful rhetoric.

You either believe in compassion and decency or you don't. If you don't, you shouldn't expect the world around you to send any your way.

[Matt Reeeeead]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I can empathize with you empathizing, I've done the same. But this thread is chocked full of outlandish and dangerous conspiracy nonsense that entirely warrants every drop of vitriol he's earned. Within the last week he equated the sexual abuse he's suffered to governmental approaches and policy on a once in a lifetime pandemic.

A bit much? The guy is a total a**hole. There needs to be a conscious effort towards not excusing his current unhinged f***ery on his past, including the fact he was good at skatey-stickey-puckey for the preferred shirts in our shared geographic location.

Theoren Fleury is a piece of s***. Full stop.

I get all of this as well.

But let’s say he’s mentally incapable at this point. From one reason or another, maybe it’s CTE, maybe it’s undiagnosed trauma, but I think his brain is fried.

I just call that something different than a piece of xxxx. That’s where I think this is. His brain doesn’t work. Unfortunately he has a platform bc of skatey stick, otherwise he would just be a blathering homeless guy we wouldn’t give the light of day to.


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[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Matt Reeeeead

I get all of this as well.

But let’s say he’s mentally incapable at this point. From one reason or another, maybe it’s CTE, maybe it’s undiagnosed trauma, but I think his brain is fried.

I just call that something different than a piece of xxxx. That’s where I think this is. His brain doesn’t work. Unfortunately he has a platform bc of skatey stick, otherwise he would just be a blathering homeless guy we wouldn’t give the light of day to.


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But he's saying the exact same things that millions of people who haven't had concussions and haven't been sexually abused say.

So it's more than a tad presumpuous to use broken brain as an excuse for his rhetoric.

[Fuzz]

I think his broken brain might provide an explanation for why he has gone nuts, but it isn't an excuse.