Theoren Fleury

[dubc80]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Since hockey (and winter sporting, in general) is a cornerstone aspect of Canadian culture there will always be a significant portion of people that pay attention, or even revere, these specific athletes. Theo and Sale make the rounds outside of that culture because of their extreme personalities, and while they are likely forgotten much more quickly than, say, the engaged Flames fan they are monitored beyond the community.

Unfortunately, a former star hockey player has more sway than your average lunatic in Canada. Although I will admit it's encouraging that I rarely hear about him or any of these nutjobs unless I specifically seek out the information.

Fleury obviously has the history of trauma, substance abuse, and maybe even minor concussions/CTE stuff as underlaying causes but what the heck happened to Sale? The former Olympic darling!

Craig Simpson got smart and bailed on her a few years ago, and Pelletier bailed before that.

Tessa Virtue, please stay sane!

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by dubc80

Fleury obviously has the history of trauma, substance abuse, and maybe even minor concussions/CTE stuff as underlaying causes !

I get your point but there are lot of people that have histories of trauma both physical and mental.


I've said it before, but Sheldon Kennedy is a force for good and experienced a #### tonne of trauma.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I get your point but there are lot of people that have histories of trauma both physical and mental.


I've said it before, but Sheldon Kennedy is a force for good and experienced a #### tonne of trauma.

That's true, but not everyone has the tools or support to get through it well. I also knew his cousin back in the day when Fleury still played with the Flames and none of the James stuff was public. He told me some pretty sad stuff about Fleury growing up, so I think there is more trauma and ego issues that started pretty much from birth. It didn't sound like a very functional family.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by dubc80

Fleury obviously has the history of trauma, substance abuse, and maybe even minor concussions/CTE stuff as underlaying causes but what the heck happened to Sale? The former Olympic darling!

Craig Simpson got smart and bailed on her a few years ago, and Pelletier bailed before that.

Tessa Virtue, please stay sane!

Pure speculation on my part, but I imagine it was something along the lines of a life crisis and the person she leaned on for support was friend and fellow Olympian Theo Fleury. I don't know what their relationship was like pre-Battle of the Blades, but I'm sure they became close.

As has been mentioned she has talked about a pseudo "life coach" coming into her life around the same time she started mimicking Theo's nuttery. Not to absolve her of her choices, but it feels like she was sucked into that black hole when she was vulnerable.

Or I could just be talking out of my ass.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Not me, Theo has had tonnes of opportunities and has decided to ignore them or #### them up.


#### him and those that listen and support him

I know you aren't "supporting him" or "apologizing for him", but he has had ample opportunity to sort himself out.

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

That's true, but not everyone has the tools or support to get through it well. I also knew his cousin back in the day when Fleury still played with the Flames and none of the James stuff was public. He told me some pretty sad stuff about Fleury growing up, so I think there is more trauma and ego issues that started pretty much from birth. It didn't sound like a very functional family.

[dubc80]

Ahh, I had no idea they were close buddies.

[MoneyGuy]

I’m not buying the notion that his trauma was a factor in Fleury becoming a nut job.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I wonder if the enablers around him leads to a reoccurrence of his addictions. There are certainly enough bad actors out there who'd exploit him until he was of no further use to him.

[GrrlGoalie33]

Originally Posted by Engine09

Hilarious to see the "15 min city" conspiracy pop up in his insane ramblings, read about that last month and had a good laugh. Not sure if it's due to past concussions but he's absolutely working with a diminished mental capacity.

Dude, I was a 9 year brain cancer survivor and currently have cancer taking up space in my brain and don't believe this B.S.

[Faust]

Theo Fleury @TheoFleury14

She wants to go door to door and jab you with a gain of function bio weapon. You can’t trust @RachelNotley she’s insane!!! According to Dr. Trozzi 20 million are dead and 2 billion injured from the vaxx world wide. Who do you trust??? Not her.

https://twitter.com/theofleury14/sta...511314432?s=21

[Faust]

Theo Fleury @TheoFleury14

I’m looking forward to my new Canadian Communist Network radio that will be permanently installed in my house pumping misinformation and disinformation all day long. We’ve seen this movie before.

https://twitter.com/theofleury14/sta...984888321?s=21

[Faust]

Theo Fleury @TheoFleury14

Bill Gates outs himself as a child sexual predator.

https://twitter.com/theofleury14/sta...709358593?s=21

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I’m not buying the notion that his trauma was a factor in Fleury becoming a nut job.

How could you possibly not buy that notion?!?!? I was a huge fan and have had to unfortunately move on from him. But using simple reasoning, it would obviously be that trauma that most likely led to where he is.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by jayswin

How could you possibly not buy that notion?!?!? I was a huge fan and have had to unfortunately move on from him. But using simple reasoning, it would obviously be that trauma that most likely led to where he is.

How do you feel about Chris Benoit?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by GrrlGoalie33

Dude, I was a 9 year brain cancer survivor and currently have cancer taking up space in my brain and don't believe this B.S.

I'm really glad you're doing well, but childhood trauma and sexual abuse aren't the same thing as beating cancer in terms of ****ing up you brain and your understanding of the world.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

How do you feel about Chris Benoit?

I don't know about him. He was the wrestler that died?

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I don't know about him. He was the wrestler that died?

he committed suicide after killing his wife and kids. chris' brain was then checked looked at afterwards and, well

The Sports Legacy Institute's post-mortem diagnosis was that Chris Benoit was suffering from a form of brain damage named Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy (CTE). Dr. Robert Cantu compared the condition of Benoit's brain to a man aged 80 or older with "very severe"#Alzheimer's disease, adding, "His was the most extensively damaged of the brains we have examined so far." According to ESPN, Benoit's brain was "liquefied" by the time police officers found his body, which was only one day after he died.

Read More: https://www.wrestlinginc.com/998526/...ter-his-death/

So I guess the question is, is there room for sympathy for someone who did an unforgiveable monstrous thing, if perhaps maybe they themselves were a victim? Its a touchy subject. But I honestly feel like Benoit is as much a victim as anyone else. This is kind of side tracking things a little more than I intended tho.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I don't know about him. He was the wrestler that died?

“Died” is a polite way to say he murdered his wife and child and then committed suicide. CTE is a mother####er.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by jayswin

I'm really glad you're doing well, but childhood trauma and sexual abuse aren't the same thing as beating cancer in terms of ****ing up you brain and your understanding of the world.

Brain cancer literally affects your brain.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Brain cancer literally affects your brain.

Yep, I actually missed the brain part of that post, that's not good on my part.

https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyc...guage%20skills