08-28-2023, 03:30 PM
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#7221
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W
Oh God, how is it almost September and we're still waiting on trades. This offseason has been BRUTAL.
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How? Most teams total lack of cap space due to the non-rising cap the last few years.
No one wants to give up cheap players and/or prospects/draft picks for rentals they know they likely can't extend.
You can trade cap for cap type deals, but that's likely UFA's to be for UFA's to be, which helps no one.
Or you can trade Taylor Hall for nothing.
Calgary did well to trade Toffoli for a player with two years control and a useful draft pick.
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08-28-2023, 03:42 PM
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#7222
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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His hat has the L and A in Calgary larger than the rest of the letters. I think that was something Toffoli had made last year.
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08-28-2023, 03:48 PM
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#7223
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
His hat has the L and A in Calgary larger than the rest of the letters. I think that was something Toffoli had made last year.
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Mangi needs to stop wearing clothes made by folks he knows or meets.
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08-28-2023, 04:32 PM
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#7224
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames_F.T.W
Oh God, how is it almost September and we're still waiting on trades. This offseason has been BRUTAL.
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Conroy really should have just traded all his pending free agents before today even if the returns were no higher than 2nd round picks and prospects that aren't exciting. At least then, the trades would have been completed by now.
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08-28-2023, 04:58 PM
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#7225
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All I can get
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
Mangi needs to stop wearing clothes made by folks he knows or meets.
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His House of Bread classics are timeless.
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08-28-2023, 05:10 PM
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#7226
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cobra
How? Most teams total lack of cap space due to the non-rising cap the last few years.
No one wants to give up cheap players and/or prospects/draft picks for rentals they know they likely can't extend.
You can trade cap for cap type deals, but that's likely UFA's to be for UFA's to be, which helps no one.
Or you can trade Taylor Hall for nothing.
Calgary did well to trade Toffoli for a player with two years control and a useful draft pick.
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Is this part sarcasm? Because I agree with the premise, but if you think this is "doing well", then that's an extraordinarily low standard.
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08-28-2023, 05:40 PM
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#7227
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Is this part sarcasm? Because I agree with the premise, but if you think this is "doing well", then that's an extraordinarily low standard.
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Exactly. It's not Conroys faullt the trade market is poor, but that doesn't make the current situation any better. The standards for what a successful off-season looks like really have dropped around here. Though that might be the only way to keep your sanity cheering for this organization.
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08-28-2023, 06:59 PM
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#7228
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Is this part sarcasm? Because I agree with the premise, but if you think this is "doing well", then that's an extraordinarily low standard.
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No sarcasm.
When you look at the value right now for players making decent money, the Toffoli trade was one of the better ones.
Their were a numbers of teams interested in Shaggy, he had value.
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08-28-2023, 07:00 PM
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#7229
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ignite09
Exactly. It's not Conroys faullt the trade market is poor, but that doesn't make the current situation any better. The standards for what a successful off-season looks like really have dropped around here. Though that might be the only way to keep your sanity cheering for this organization.
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The markets is the market.
Unless you think that Conroy should simply walk these players to UFA, he needs to play in, and be judged in, this existing market.
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08-28-2023, 07:02 PM
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#7230
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Conroy really should have just traded all his pending free agents before today even if the returns were no higher than 2nd round picks and prospects that aren't exciting. At least then, the trades would have been completed by now.
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He really shouldn’t have. Really.
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08-28-2023, 08:15 PM
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#7232
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
Conroy really should have just traded all his pending free agents before today even if the returns were no higher than 2nd round picks and prospects that aren't exciting. At least then, the trades would have been completed by now.
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How is they better than waiting for appropriate value later in the season?
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08-28-2023, 08:25 PM
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#7233
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First Line Centre
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I'd prefer Conroy walk a few UFA's, like Burke did, rather than accept tiny returns. It seemed to work then as the flames were able to make seemingly better trades after the whole Cammalleri trade deadline fiasco. Conroy needs to think long-term and build a solid reputation.
Toffoli return was fine as we needed to shed cap regardless.
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08-28-2023, 08:30 PM
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#7234
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the Leafs signed D Simon Benoit to a one year contract. No big whoop.
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08-28-2023, 08:33 PM
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#7235
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Benn has a $9.5 million cap hit and the Stars are in practically the same cap situation as the Flames. A deal would have to match cap coming in and going out, so I don't see how the Flames could do it.
Perhaps a 3rd team get get involved to take on cap, but they aren't going to be doing it for nothing, so you have to add more value to the trade just to facilitate that.
Benn is a non-starter in any trade discussions I think.
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Retention makes it possible....even if its improbable.
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08-28-2023, 08:54 PM
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#7236
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#1 Goaltender
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What is with his hair, looks like a spray on
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08-28-2023, 09:50 PM
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#7237
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by red sky
What is with his hair, looks like a spray on
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I think he got hair replacement surgery.
Earlier in the offseason a pic was floating around and it looked like it was just done.
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08-28-2023, 10:09 PM
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#7238
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the Leafs signed D Simon Benoit to a one year contract. No big whoop.
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Is that just Sam Bennett wearing a beret and holding a baguette while talking in a bad French accent? Like his French alter ego or something.
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08-29-2023, 10:37 AM
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#7239
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I think he got hair replacement surgery.
Earlier in the offseason a pic was floating around and it looked like it was just done.
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It's one of surgery, a system, or concealer:
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08-29-2023, 10:44 AM
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#7240
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but the Leafs signed D Simon Benoit to a one year contract. No big whoop.
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