[Trade] Flames trade Toffoli to NJ for RFA rights to Sharangovich and 80th OA

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I'd call Sutter wise and highly competent, but to the detriment of interpersonal relationships.

His boundaries are not that of your average boss/working professional.

Good thing it paid off for him with a couple of championships. But you saw here what happens with guys like Sutter when the results are no longer there to justify the means.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Sounds like making excuses for a toxic individual

You can taste the tears through the post lol. Leave Darryl alone.

Great family man and father first wtf does that have to do with how he treated people on the job, including support staff.

He's been blasted for this actions before it just became more in the spotlight last season because of the market and team struggled.

You don't hear many players come out and bash a coach who they won a title with and a guy with respect around the league like Justin Williams.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

It's hilarious to me how people use these stories as some sort of revelation into what is Darryl Sutter when in reality, he's been the exact same person throughout his entire career.

A legendary family (including being a pure family man/father first and foremost), an amazing playing career in which he was named Captain for the last 5 of his total 8 year career, playing through/coming back from handfuls of insane injuries, respected/beloved by many, if not most of his former players (including a number of players who have made sure to point out that Sutter is a family man and always cared deeply about what was going on in their personal lives and willing to go out of his way for them), is a legend among the LA fanbase, etc etc etc.

To try and tarnish his legacy and reputation for being something that he was always known for being (but still well-respected for) is comical.

lol

[AustinL_NHL]

Is there something more deep, or do people simply hate Sutter because of his use of simple condescending one-liners?

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Is there something more deep, or do people simply hate Sutter because of his use of simple condescending one-liners?

Nothing more deep then everything that's out there.

[sketchyt]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Is there something more deep, or do people simply hate Sutter because of his use of simple condescending one-liners?

I've met Darryl a handful of times in different situations. He's like everyone else - complicated. He's not some cartoon villain. I think it's just convenient to think he is.

Off the ice, yeah he's the real deal. Incredibly kind, hilarious and thoughtful.

But when you combine professional hockey coach, losing, and not playing the way he wants you to... it's not going to go great. He's obviously past his expiry date on those coaching methods. He shouldn't be coaching anymore and he isn't.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Said by Toffoli, good of a place as any to put it

So glad Sutter is gone

https://twitter.com/user/status/1694077530511392942

The whole Toffoli audio comment shows that it had nothing to do with Markstrom.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Lol simple condescending one liners.

As if that is the only he does. If he is such a great father and family man maybe he should learn to treat people with the same respect especially on the job. Being mentally abusive to people is not okay regardless of the paycheque.

Couple that with the fact he never owns up to his mistakes because its never Darryl's fault always the players.

[bax]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

You know oiler fanboy Whitney was relishing that ####.

You take this stuff too seriously. Whitney isn’t actually an Oilers fanboy, he’s just playing a character to drive clicks. Same thing with Biz and the Flames/Leafs/Yotes.

There’s plenty of times Whitney has absolutely shredded the Oilers organization and the city of Edmonton.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by bax

You take this stuff too seriously. Whitney isn’t actually an Oilers fanboy, he’s just playing a character to drive clicks. Same thing with Biz and the Flames/Leafs/Yotes.

There’s plenty of times Whitney has absolutely shredded the Oilers organization and the city of Edmonton.

Please share.

Someone brought Pink Whitney and was passing it around but I couldn't bring myself to have that Oiler fanboys garbage.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by sketchyt

I've met Darryl a handful of times in different situations. He's like everyone else - complicated. He's not some cartoon villain. I think it's just convenient to think he is.

Off the ice, yeah he's the real deal. Incredibly kind, hilarious and thoughtful.

But when you combine professional hockey coach, losing, and not playing the way he wants you to... it's not going to go great. He's obviously past his expiry date on those coaching methods. He shouldn't be coaching anymore and he isn't.

This. I also think Sutter became an issue last season. But I'd rather him than a two faced coach - at least he's staked out his position and isn't pretending otherwise.

[Bonded]

I think that interview reinforces that there were factions within the team for and against Sutter as well. Hopefully the anti Sutter players get their #### together

[fotze2]

You talk to players that played for him, no one ever doubts that he is amazing at his vocation of being a coach. Loving your own kids and family is pretty damn easy and no one should be commended for that.

He's a great coach and one of the best in history and like the rest of them, they are not well liked at fellow humans. I think some players/people can ignore that and some can't. I don't think I could look past that but some could leverage his negative style into a positive. Just different personalities can do that. Probably people who were abused themselves.

If the only love you know came with the odd back of a hand, you'd probably love Sutts, if you had a dad who didn't hit you, probably won't be able to relate.

[sch19lks]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Please share.

Someone brought Pink Whitney and was passing it around but I couldn't bring myself to have that Oiler fanboys garbage.

Biz and Whit started their Flames/Oilers fan boy thing early on in the 2021/22 season. Before that, Whit never had a good thing to say about the Oilers or the city of Edmonton. He would pretty regularly dump on the team and the city. Which to me, actually makes him and his Oilers “fandom” even more annoying.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by sch19lks

Biz and Whit started their Flames/Oilers fan boy thing early on in the 2021/22 season. Before that, Whit never had a good thing to say about the Oilers or the city of Edmonton. He would pretty regularly dump on the team and the city. Which to me, actually makes him and his Oilers “fandom” even more annoying.

What a horrible thing to have to pretend to help drive clicks. He must have drawn the short straw.

[Reggie Dunlop]

That Suniev kid is something.....

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Party Elephant

Controversy drives clicks, and this is not unique to hockey.

posters on here were up in arm instantly

[DJones]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I think that interview reinforces that there were factions within the team for and against Sutter as well. Hopefully the anti Sutter players get their #### together

Who was for Sutter?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by DJones

Who was for Sutter?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Toffoli and Lewis

[DJones]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say Toffoli and Lewis

Toffoli seems to have talked a ton of #### about Sutter though. If he's on the pro Sutter side, must be a short list