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		|  08-22-2023, 08:00 AM | #1 |  
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				 TBL sign Hagel to 8 yr extension $6.5 mil AAV 
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		|  08-22-2023, 08:00 AM | #2 |  
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			They sure do like their 8 year deals.
		 
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		|  08-22-2023, 08:10 AM | #3 |  
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			Good for Hagel!
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		|  08-22-2023, 08:26 AM | #4 |  
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			Good deal for all parties.
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		|  08-22-2023, 08:54 AM | #5 |  
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			Another young player who drops in their laps. Tampa has some terrific pro and amateur scouting.
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		|  08-22-2023, 08:57 AM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by keenan87  Another young player who drops in their laps. Tampa has some terrific pro and amateur scouting. |  
Dropped in their lap?
 
They paid a high price to get him: 
 
2022-Mar-18 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks with round 4 pick in the 2022 draft (Kenny Connors) and round 4 pick in the 2024 draft to Tampa Bay Lightning for Taylor Raddysh, Boris Katchouk, conditional round 1 pick in the 2023 draft (Oliver Moore) and round 1 pick in the 2024 draft
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		|  08-22-2023, 08:59 AM | #7 |  
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:00 AM | #8 |  
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					Originally Posted by keenan87  Another young player who drops in their laps. Tampa has some terrific pro and amateur scouting. |  
They paid a high ass premium to have him for a few years on chump change. Not a guy that dropped in their laps by any means.
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:26 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina  Dropped in their lap?
 They paid a high price to get him:
 
 2022-Mar-18 Traded from Chicago Blackhawks with round 4 pick in the 2022 draft (Kenny Connors) and round 4 pick in the 2024 draft to Tampa Bay Lightning for Taylor Raddysh, Boris Katchouk, conditional round 1 pick in the 2023 draft (Oliver Moore) and round 1 pick in the 2024 draft
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Fair enough. Still - a gamble that has paid off for them though. They don't seem to miss often.
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:28 AM | #10 |  
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					Originally Posted by keenan87  Fair enough. Still - a gamble that has paid off for them though. They don't seem to miss often. |  
Jeannot will be interesting to watch
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:31 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by Bonded  Jeannot will be interesting to watch |  
Time will tell but that one looks like a gigantic miss.
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:42 AM | #12 |  
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			This seems rich. Hagel is a good player but an eight year commitment? Woof.
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:50 AM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by Saqe  This seems rich. Hagel is a good player but an eight year commitment? Woof. |  
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He’s 24.  This is the perfect age age for an 8 year deal
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:51 AM | #14 |  
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			Making what Killorn does in Anaheim (and what I expect he was asking for an extension in TB).  But 4 years more obviously, which, at 24, is OK.
 It will be interesting - this contract kicks in when Stamkos is a UFA.  And one year before Hedman.  I think they will sign Stamkos to a short term deal and try for a cup in the next 3 years.
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:52 AM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by Saqe  This seems rich. Hagel is a good player but an eight year commitment? Woof. |  
He's only just turning 25. Scored 30. You lock that up for 8 all day.
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		|  08-22-2023, 09:57 AM | #16 |  
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			That seems like a great deal for a 24 year old who just got 64 points
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		|  08-22-2023, 10:00 AM | #17 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1qqaaz  That seems like a great deal for a 24 year old who just got 64 points |  
The danger is reading too much into a season, but he had 44 the year before with two teams (one of which was terrible).  
 
The other option would have been a Mangiapane type deal.
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		|  08-22-2023, 10:07 AM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache  ?
 He’s 24.  This is the perfect age age for an 8 year deal
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The deal is based off one good year. It's a big commitment with a lot of projecting and I feel like only the core / star players should get eight year deals. I don't know, to me it feels super risky.
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		|  08-22-2023, 10:37 AM | #19 |  
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					Originally Posted by Saqe  The deal is based off one good year. It's a big commitment with a lot of projecting and I feel like only the core / star players should get eight year deals. I don't know, to me it feels super risky. |  
Hagel is in their core now.  He's their 4th best forward and Stamkos only has a year left on his contract.  As for next year he's a top 3 forward on that team, after Point and Kucherov.  He's their best LW right now, by a long way. 
 
He's going to play with either Point or Stamkos next year, unless Stamkos plays wing, and most likely with Kucherov too.  He's going to score.
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		|  08-22-2023, 10:50 AM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by GioforPM  Hagel is in their core now.  He's their 4th best forward and Stamkos only has a year left on his contract.  As for next year he's a top 3 forward on that team, after Point and Kucherov.  He's their best LW right now, by a long way. 
 He's going to play with either Point or Stamkos next year, unless Stamkos plays wing, and most likely with Kucherov too.  He's going to score.
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He'll probably score in the regular season if he gets the minutes and linemates but I haven't been that impressed with him to sign him to an eight year deal with a fairly decent cap hit. On paper it looks good if you just stat watch and project him to repeat the same kind of numbers for the next eight years.
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