There is a shanty on the East side of Deerfoot. If you're going Northbound, its right before you reach the Inglewood curling club/golf clubhouse. I noticed it because there is tons of garbage there.
Kinda looks like an outhouse actually. I applaud their effort in getting plywood over there.
I give it a week before it's up on realtor.ca for 240K.
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Yeah, that post was really dumb. Plus, THC sucks for pain, and I say that as a daily user. If I'm in a ton of pain the last thing I want is to get high and then focus/amplify any ailment to the point where I can feel my heartbeat in whatever is hurting me.
Opiates are amazing, just don't be a tit with them. I was prescribed them when I had my wisdom teeth out, when I got crazy glue in my eye and I was on morphine when I lacerated my spleen. Didn't ruin my life. Took the prescribed amount to get through the worst of things then carried on like normal.
I am the opposite. THC is an amazing pain killer for me. I find it amplifies pain when it's more of a mental anguish I am going through. For physical pain, it definitely numbs me to the point that it's noticeable, but manageable. Almost like I can analyze what I am feeling and deal with it accordingly.
When I got my wisdom teeth out years ago I was prescribed some kind of opiate (can't recall which one) and I took a few pills as prescribed and it didn't do anything for my pain. I finally got around to smoking a joint and the pain was gone almost instantly. That's all the convincing I needed that herbal > opiods.
Obviously everyone is different.
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I just don't see how you can't see how this is a problem.
Don't you realize it falls on multiple sober people to go around dealing with the zombies? They end up in ERs, they take paramedics away from other people, they are destructive to public property, they urinate, puke and defecate in random spots, they beg and steal to get money for their next fix, they don't contribute to society, they cause their families untold stress, etc. etc.
I get the live and let live idea, but these people are actively causing problems and expense for the rest of us. And my answer pretends there isn't a bunch of crime and violence attributable to their lifestyle and behaviour, which is another whole can of worms. Pretending this isn't an issue is ridiculous.
I can only speak from personal experience - I've dealt with way worse behaviour from drunk people in Stampede than homeless drug addicts, none of whom do more than take up maybe a little extra space on the train. I've never once seen them act out.
I can only speak from personal experience - I've dealt with way worse behaviour from drunk people in Stampede than homeless drug addicts, none of whom do more than take up maybe a little extra space on the train. I've never once seen them act out.
Okay, so there are drunk people 10 days a year. The hunched-over horse-tranq people are flapping around 365 days per year. And you haven't seen them act out? Lol, hope it's comfy living under a rock. And you didn't know they don't work? You didn't know they abuse and get abused? You didn't know they slurp up resources from taxpayers? How can that be?
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Okay, so there are drunk people 10 days a year. The hunched-over horse-tranq people are flapping around 365 days per year. And you haven't seen them act out? Lol, hope it's comfy living under a rock. And you didn't know they don't work? You didn't know they abuse and get abused? You didn't know they slurp up resources from taxpayers? How can that be?
Dude, way to add miles to what I said. Of course I know they don't work. So what? As for "slurping up resources from the taxpayer", that seems real compassionate. I suspect most of these folks use a lot less public resources than the average person anyway.
The issue I talked about was whether they were causing problems, not whether they were a population in need of protection and help. The latter is undoubtedly true. The former - I've never felt unsafe around a homeless person. I certainly never worried about my tax dollars being used to help any of them.
As for living under a rock, I take the train into downtown every single work day.
My issue here is that it seems like a lot of the posters' problem is simply the fact they have to look at these people, which seems a tad mean spirited to me.
As for living under a rock, I take the train into downtown every single work day
If you're taking the train from the west end of town (I assume) and have not experienced what Sliver is saying, then you are either 1) oblivious, 2) have nerves of steel, or 3) are purposefully misrepresenting your experiences in order to support your position.
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I think the definition of “acting out” is pretty abstract depending on your level of tolerance for anything that doesn’t conform to Japanese subway etiquette. A daily commute in the train, do I see people looking haggard and out-of-it and occupying a shelter doing drugs, yes. Does it take nerves of steel to handle? No. I see little old ladies and children on the trains too and they don’t appear outwardly fazed by any of this. Just live and let live.
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I think the definition of “acting out” is pretty abstract depending on your level of tolerance for anything that doesn’t conform to Japanese subway etiquette. A daily commute in the train, do I see people looking haggard and out-of-it and occupying a shelter doing drugs, yes. Does it take nerves of steel to handle? No. I see little old ladies and children on the trains too and they don’t appear outwardly fazed by any of this. Just live and let live.
You see people on the train, with makeshift shelters, doing drugs in said shelter, and see no issue with it?
What ####ing world are we living in where people celebrate cigarette smokers having to stay 5m away from a doorway but live and let live while some loser smokes crack on the c train.
As for "slurping up resources from the taxpayer", that seems real compassionate. I suspect most of these folks use a lot less public resources than the average person anyway.
You'd be surprised. I looked into this a while back, as we so often hear "it's cheaper to buy them all houses than have to deal with them as chronic homeless."
I will admit that I haven't looked into it for some time, but I recall a study from around 2010 saying that the average cost of each homeless person in Calgary was around $100,000.
I can't imagine that an 'average citizen' costs the City "much more" than 100,000/year. I also don't imagine that the situation has improved much, if at all, since 2010.
You see people on the train, with makeshift shelters, doing drugs in said shelter, and see no issue with it?
What ####ing world are we living in where people celebrate cigarette smokers having to stay 5m away from a doorway but live and let live while some loser smokes crack on the c train.
I didn’t say it wasn’t a problem, but I don’t see anybody cowering fearfully waiting on the platforms like is being described as the appropriate response to seeing homeless or addicts around.
I’d say it’s the infrequent user of transit, or the ones who’d never go downtown anyway that seem to say this is the reason they won’t go. When really, they’d never take transit or go downtown anyway. You don’t need nerves of steel or have a hardened heart or whatever.
If you don’t think banning cigarettes near building entrances should be celebrated, just visit a country where smoking literally anywhere except airplanes is still allowed and 50% of the population smokes, to remind yourself what it used to be like here. I think you’ll be fine with how things are here.
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I can only speak from personal experience - I've dealt with way worse behaviour from drunk people in Stampede than homeless drug addicts, none of whom do more than take up maybe a little extra space on the train. I've never once seen them act out.
With all due respect, this isn't the current situation. Used to be a big advocate of Calgary Transit and commuting on the train would no longer recommend it. The idea that they're "just taking up space" is so wildly incorrect. An opioid crisis, inflation and the covid pandemic were negative game changers. What was once a rare occurrence, seeing zonked out of their mind, is now common. It's daily thing to see someone Zombie walk across an intersection.
Try walking through Harley Hotchkiss Park, into 4th st station and then the +15 that leads into the core hall, that +15 is a homeless shelter.
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As for living under a rock, I take the train into downtown every single work day.
My final straw was seeing a guy dying at 4th st station, getting CPR from his zonked out friend. Getting on the train with a guy smoking crack in the seat behind me. Then getting off at my station and going through a gauntlet of homeless yelling at each other.
Your experience is shocking, and not the norm.
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Homeless situation in Calgary (and everywhere else I’ve been in the last two years) is getting worse, with a feeling of aggression I didn’t see in the past.
I can’t imagine being a senior dealing with this. My wife would be terrified. I’m uncomfortable and very aware of surroundings, which I’ve never been in Calgary.
And there’s no hope that things will get better.
Addiction is such a massive issue and we need a robust plan to reduce the risk to all members of society and rehabilitate people who are facing addiction.
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I think the definition of “acting out” is pretty abstract depending on your level of tolerance for anything that doesn’t conform to Japanese subway etiquette. A daily commute in the train, do I see people looking haggard and out-of-it and occupying a shelter doing drugs, yes. Does it take nerves of steel to handle? No. I see little old ladies and children on the trains too and they don’t appear outwardly fazed by any of this. Just live and let live.
No one is talking about people looking haggard. That's not the situation
If you don’t think banning cigarettes near building entrances should be celebrated, just visit a country where smoking literally anywhere except airplanes is still allowed and 50% of the population smokes, to remind yourself what it used to be like here. I think you’ll be fine with how things are here.
So smoking in building entrances and other place’s is gross, and we would realize it if we went somewhere that still considers it normal, but…. you’ve been conditioned to accept public drug use and resulting erratic behaviour as normal, so those who aren’t conditioned to it are too sensitive?
