2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

I think moving tanev for liljegren is a great deal 4 us. Even if we retain salary

The point is more about the huge ask from the flames... if Liljegren was offered that deal is done.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Sec214

The point is more about that's a huge ask from the flames... if Liljegren was offered that deal is done.

Fair enough. We can always send them a 4th round pick to even things up

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Noah...He isn't going to hand cuff the flames on the remaining year and will play anywhere not on his 8 team no trade. As previously mentioned, his camp does not need a extension in place - This limits his market.

Florida will need to rebuild their blueline after this season. Noah fits nicely into that as he wont cost an arm and leg. Doesn't hurt when he's great friends with Chucky.

Done! Verhaeghe please.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Done! Verhaeghe please.

LW isn't a position of weakness on this team.

[Nelson]

The prospect you want from Carolina is Alexander Nikishin.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by Sec214

The point is more about the huge ask from the flames... if Liljegren was offered that deal is done.

I bet Tre folds. Toronto needs someone like Tanev.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Nelson

The prospect you want from Carolina is Alexander Nikishin.

Gotta be patient, though. Has two seasons left on his KHL contract.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Gotta be patient, though. Has two seasons left on his KHL contract.

We can afford to be patient

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Noah...He isn't going to hand cuff the flames on the remaining year and will play anywhere not on his 8 team no trade. As previously mentioned, his camp does not need a extension in place - This limits his market.

Florida will need to rebuild their blueline after this season. Noah fits nicely into that as he wont cost an arm and leg. Doesn't hurt when he's great friends with Chucky.

Lindholm and Hanifin for Chucky. Give him the C and build the team around him.


...cut to Steven Tyler in the background screaming, "Dreaaaamm onnnnn... dreeeammm onnnnn..."

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Sec214

LW isn't a position of weakness on this team.

So Fla went out and patched their d up. Short term, they are fine and don’t need hanifin immediately. Which weakens Conroys negotiations with Florida.

If not LW, we are looking for C RW or D in return for Hanifin. I can’t see any circumstance in which lundell is exchanged for Hanifin, which is probably our target. nor does Florida want to bust up a Stanley cup championship team. So we need to look away from Florida.

From what I can see, Seattle doesn’t have anything of interest for us that isn’t future related, and I’m guessing this will be a win now/hockey trade based on what we’ve seen. Why Carolina would trade anything of significance for Hanifin when they are looking to deal Pesce for the same reason is beyond me. And if Toronto is out, what are we left with?

I think Boston would do a deal for Hanifin. He’s been on sweeney’s radar for some time.

Dallas probably interested but can’t see anything there for us that would provide immediate help.

Don’t know why LA isn’t being mentioned more. Their d is less than stellar and they have some decent pieces that might interest us.

Washington seems like a team that wants to do something and their d isn’t particularly strong. Have some pieces that could interest us.

nyi was flogging pageau and wahlstrom for debrincat. They might have interest in upgrading their d. Pageau doesn’t fit what we are looking for and has a ntc so he probably won’t come.

[getbak]

I hadn't looked at Toronto's cap situation lately. Even with Murray and Muzzin going on full-season LTIR, they're still more than $2 million over the cap with a 22 man roster.

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Sec214

LW isn't a position of weakness on this team.

I don't think that matters. If Verhaeghe is on the table, you take that 10/10 times and worry about the LW logjam later.

Besides... Verhaeghe on the left with not-as-comfortable Huberdeau on the right is infinitely better than Huberdeau on the left with nobody on the right. Logjam already solved.

[Saqe]

Florida patched up their D this year, next year is another story. If OEL bounces back I can see him extending with them, he seems really motivated so who knows. I would say there is about 0% chance Vergaege is on the table, he is super clutch and on an absolutely steal of a contract.

[ForeverFlameFan]

I don’t see Verhaeghe available. Reinhart on the other hand… I think he’d be a decent grab.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

I don’t see Verhaeghe available. Reinhart on the other hand… I think he’d be a decent grab.

Yeah and the same contract situation as with Hanifin. He is also very good but obviously his next contract demands determine much of his value like with Noah.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Florida patched up their D this year, next year is another story. If OEL bounces back I can see him extending with them, he seems really motivated so who knows. I would say there is about 0% chance Vergaege is on the table, he is super clutch and on an absolutely steal of a contract.

That is a MASSIVE IF...not sure letters large enough exist

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

That is a MASSIVE IF...not sure letters large enough exist

Sure

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

We can afford to be patient

For a 6’4”, 216 pound defenceman who beat Kirill Kaprizov’s U22 scoring record and led the KHL in scoring by defencemen, yes, you can wait. I think the bigger issue is that Carolina has told teams that he is off the table.

Edit: Dobber’s summary of Nikishin doesn’t lend you to think of him as an offensive dynamo, and that’s the thing that makes him sound so amazing to me: “A big-bodied defenceman with an aggressive mindset and a big slapshot.“

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Why take a hike? Tanev isn't sticking around after this year, has had a few injury riddled seasons and has a cap hit of $4.5m. Let Tre have him.

Tre will have him for free in July then.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by Saqe

I'm sure they would love to get Lindholm but you and others are completely ignoring the acquisition cost and cap implications for them moving forward. That's the issue, obviously Lindholm would be a great get for them in vacuum. But signing him might also be a difference in a couple of years when they need to sign all their own young guys to big money deals.



Also I'm not sure why people are lumping Laine and Werenski together with Gaudreau who is 30 while Laine is 25 and Werenski just turned 26. This is an extremely young team still and their window isn't open yet.

Again, I think you’re getting ahead of it.

Cap implications moving forward? When? Two years from now? 3 years from now? A lot can happen in that amount of time. Are all the Jackets prospects going to turn into +$6M dollar players?

I suspect the goal is to ice a competitive team this year. The way many GM’s approach things is they’ll figure it out when the time comes. In fact, I’d say that happens to almost all of them at some point.

Whether it’s Lindholm’s, who I suspect Gaudreau is pulling for or Schiefele, I’d be surprised if the BJ’s aren’t looking to improve at C, right now.