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Old 07-30-2023, 06:18 PM   #1181
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Depending on the model, cruises about 155 mph. Road distance is 330 miles. Straight line distance ("as the crow flys") would be less
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Old 07-30-2023, 07:20 PM   #1182
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Saw a C130 yesterday over Tuscany and was wondering what was going on.

Very sad and I hesitate to speculate but two things come to mind (for me):

1. It's a 6 seat aircraft but 6 people doing a mountain crossing leads to wonder if the aircraft was within it's weight limits. Wouldn't take much luggage to put it over.

2. Seems an odd decision to begin a mountain crossing in a single engine aircraft near dusk.
The PA-32 (especially the 300) is an excellent and very capable machine but handles significantly different when lightly loaded compared to being at max gross with an aft C of G. Weight could be a contributing factor in this crash, performance would certainly have been diminished with 6 adult males on board (unless they all weighed 120 pounds).

I'm speculating, but his accident has the classic hallmarks of CFIT with some really poor decisions being made by the pilot to proceed with the flight based on departure time and weather conditions.

8:47pm YBW departure with travel through the Rockies in a single engine piston aircraft with reported ceilings at 500'-800' in the Morley-Banff corridor, yikes. Aircraft slammed into the east face of Mount McGillivray which is adjacent to the Trans-Canada highway along the VFR route through the Rocks. Aircraft likely got obscured in cloud and we know the end result.

Sad that 6 people perished in a very preventable accident based on the decision to proceed with the flight in the first place. I'd be surprised if this is anything other than a Class 4 TSB investigation with weather and pilot decision making being the contributing factors to the crash. Not much new to learn here from a safety perspective unfortunately.
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Old 07-30-2023, 07:40 PM   #1183
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How long of a flight would that be in a plane like this? Sunset is essentially 9:30 nowadays here with last light around 10:10.
Depending on wind from takeoff to landing likely just under 2 hours, Shuswap has a lighted runway though.
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Old 07-31-2023, 10:37 AM   #1184
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A forumer over at AvCanada (damn I hadn't been there in AGES) posted a link to a GoFundMe for the pilot apparently. Also says he only had the plane since June, left behind an expectant wife.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=196099
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Old 07-31-2023, 11:20 AM   #1185
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A forumer over at AvCanada (damn I hadn't been there in AGES) posted a link to a GoFundMe for the pilot apparently. Also says he only had the plane since June, left behind an expectant wife.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=196099
Small discussion over at PPRUNE as well.

https://www.pprune.org/accidents-clo...ta-canada.html
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Old 08-01-2023, 10:22 AM   #1186
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This probably won't buff out
https://twitter.com/user/status/1686330917688623104
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Old 08-01-2023, 10:25 AM   #1187
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Yikes.

I presume with that kind of buckling that airframe is toast.
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Old 08-01-2023, 05:21 PM   #1188
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"Some items may have shifted during flight."
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Yikes.

I presume with that kind of buckling that airframe is toast.
Not necessarily, but it may be cost prohibitive.
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Old 08-02-2023, 11:53 AM   #1190
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Not necessarily, but it may be cost prohibitive.
Apparently that airframe is the oldest one in United's fleet (32 years), would be surprising if they didn't just scrap it now.
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LOL, did UA file a copyright complaint on a picture of their broken plane? I hope it's the photographer who did that, not UA.
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Old 08-02-2023, 02:00 PM   #1192
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Maybe United thought it was a guitar?
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Old 08-02-2023, 02:46 PM   #1193
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LOL, did UA file a copyright complaint on a picture of their broken plane? I hope it's the photographer who did that, not UA.
The tweets are deleted now, but that twitter account claims that The Aviation Herald posted a copyright claim using "invisible identifiers" on the photo, and they were fighting the copyright claim. I guess they lost that battle and deleted the other tweets about it.
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Old 08-03-2023, 05:34 PM   #1194
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Since I’m too lazy to find the Lego thread:



Sept 4. Around $200 USD I think.
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Old 08-03-2023, 09:13 PM   #1195
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Airbus?

edit: I'll be damned, I had no idea lol
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Oops
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Old 08-09-2023, 06:19 PM   #1197
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Not surprised, rearward visibility is crap in those things.
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Old 08-21-2023, 12:52 PM   #1198
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This will buff out right?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1693671579522302380

Alaska hiring Ryanair pilots now?

“Apparently an Alaskan flight in SNA landed so hard in the winds this morning that landing gear punctured the wing”
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Old 08-21-2023, 01:06 PM   #1199
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Good thing that engine was there to hold er up, I guess. Unintended benefit to the low-hung 737 engines?
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Old 09-01-2023, 02:45 PM   #1200
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First CC-330 for the RCAF arriving in Ottawa:

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