07-17-2023, 02:55 PM
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#1621
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
@Pepsi
Why would you put "superior replacement" in quotes?
Eichel is clearly the best centre that Vegas has ever had in their short history.
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and better than any centre we've had since #25 was here some 2+ decades ago.
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07-17-2023, 02:59 PM
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#1622
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
But they still had consistent regular season success so they we're clearly an elite team. You don't win back to back Presidents Trohphies being an average team. Back to back President Trophies then winning the Cup the following year isn't some massive fluke. There is clearly a trend there. Missing the playoffs 50% of the time in the last decade is also likely an indicator of what the Flames are.
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Markstrom played like a knob all of last year and the Flames missed the playoffs by 2 points.
You get average goaltending - the Flames make the playoffs and then you are good with the Flames re-signing Lindholm?
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07-17-2023, 03:04 PM
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#1623
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
Right but you put those words in quotes as if to make it sound like it's questionable that he is a superior replacement. Anyway, whatever.
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Suggesting that Eichel wasn't actually a superior replacement would completely nullify the point I was making, so I certainly hope I wasn't secretly trying to make it sound like that.
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07-17-2023, 09:09 PM
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#1624
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shutout
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07-17-2023, 09:41 PM
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#1625
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The hilarious thing about these types of comments about Gaudreau and Tkachuk is that all the same fans said the Flames had no elite talent, and weren't good enough, when Gaudreau and Tkachuk were here. Now they are these icons that our current players, like Huberdeau, could never possibly live up to
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This a thousand times.
You know who else said the Flames had no elite talent? Repeatedly.
Daryl Sutter.
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07-17-2023, 10:32 PM
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#1626
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Locke
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Last panel ruins it.
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07-17-2023, 10:39 PM
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#1627
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The hilarious thing about these types of comments about Gaudreau and Tkachuk is that all the same fans said the Flames had no elite talent, and weren't good enough, when Gaudreau and Tkachuk were here. Now they are these icons that our current players, like Huberdeau, could never possibly live up to
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Sometimes you don’t realize what you have until it’s gone.
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07-17-2023, 11:02 PM
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#1628
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The hilarious thing about these types of comments about Gaudreau and Tkachuk is that all the same fans said the Flames had no elite talent, and weren't good enough, when Gaudreau and Tkachuk were here.
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For sure, that's true. But also, we don't have them anymore.
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07-17-2023, 11:14 PM
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#1629
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Markstrom played like a knob all of last year and the Flames missed the playoffs by 2 points.
You get average goaltending - the Flames make the playoffs and then you are good with the Flames re-signing Lindholm?
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I'd rather them aspire to be more than a bubble team so no.
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07-18-2023, 01:55 AM
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#1630
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Franchise Player
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Eichel should have been a flame, Gaudreau would likely still be here and maybe even Chucky, nobody on this green earth can tell me Treliving couldn't have beat that package Vegas sent to Buffalo.
Eichel and Gaudreau on the same line would have been special.
Thanks Treliving you idiot!
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07-18-2023, 02:23 AM
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#1631
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2022
Location: Calgree
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
Eichel should have been a flame, Gaudreau would likely still be here and maybe even Chucky, nobody on this green earth can tell me Treliving couldn't have beat that package Vegas sent to Buffalo.
Eichel and Gaudreau on the same line would have been special.
Thanks Treliving you idiot!
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Apparently Buffalo was hell bent on Krebs as part of the return
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07-18-2023, 02:36 AM
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#1632
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sch19lks
Apparently Buffalo was hell bent on Krebs as part of the return
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They were probably hell bent on Pelletier too, he's the better player.
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07-18-2023, 04:30 AM
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#1633
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blender
This a thousand times.
You know who else said the Flames had no elite talent? Repeatedly.
Daryl Sutter.
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His mind games were too much.
Acquire a winger who just set an NHL record for most assists for a LW in history yet the team lacked any elite players....
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07-18-2023, 04:45 AM
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#1634
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames1217
His mind games were too much.
Acquire a winger who just set an NHL record for most assists for a LW in history yet the team lacked any elite players....
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Yup. Sutter said the team needed a high volume of shots every game, in order to make up for our lack of offensive talent. Hence the high number of shots from the perimeter, and lack of creativity.
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07-18-2023, 06:41 AM
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#1635
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
They were probably hell bent on Pelletier too, he's the better player.
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They wanted Tuch too, not just Kreb’s.
What’s this package you think the Sabres would have taken? How do you know the Sabres would have taken it and how do you know Treliving didn’t offer it?
I don’t think you know any of these things.
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07-18-2023, 06:41 AM
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#1636
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
They were probably hell bent on Pelletier too, he's the better player.
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They weren’t though. For whatever reason, Krebs was key to the deal.
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07-18-2023, 06:49 AM
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#1637
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
I'd rather them aspire to be more than a bubble team so no.
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They were a bubble team with their 2 best players having career worst seasons. Clearly had Markstrom and Huberdeau had average seasons this was a 100pt team and if they had similar years as 2022 the team would have been a top team in the league.
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07-18-2023, 07:04 AM
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#1638
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Franchise Player
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I don't see a reason for all the handwringing. As has been pointed out the Flames had a horrible season from a number of players and a coach who contributed to their demise by driving them into the ditch on many occasions (any time they made it to OT). This is a team that I would actually bet on bouncing back. They need another forward but have the assets to go get one, so they could be a lot better than anyone thinks. I believe that, with the exception of Lindholm, every player that has stated they want out is easily replaceable and the Flames could be better off by trading the malcontents away. Make the deals, recoup the bodies to improve the team now and in the future, and rebound.
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07-18-2023, 07:45 AM
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#1639
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hackey
I'd rather them aspire to be more than a bubble team so no.
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Yeah, I am quite sure that they do.
The point is that with even average goaltending the Flames would have been a playoff team last year. With goaltending like what Markstrom delivered the previous season they would have challenged for the Division. In other words, this team is still pretty good.
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07-18-2023, 07:48 AM
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#1640
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus
They were probably hell bent on Pelletier too, he's the better player.
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I very seriously doubt that the Flames felt that strongly about holding on to Pelletier. My guess is that Buffalo does not think he is "the better player."
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