2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by memphusk

That's great. He still isn't as good as Tkachuk and Gaudreau. Those guys performed while putting on major miles in the western conference and playing for what some seem to think was the devil. Those guys are better players.

What does "major miles in the western conference" even mean? Let's not get too dramatic there, lol.

[getbak]

In the season where Gaudreau and Huberdeau both scored 115 points, the Panthers travelled 4,000 more miles than the Flames: https://soundofhockey.com/2021/09/13...y-the-numbers/


* Note, this is based on the original schedule for the season, not the adjusted schedule with the make-up games during the cancelled Olympic break. The Flames only played one road game (in Vancouver) during the make-up games, so it likely reduced their amount of travel.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by jayswin

What does "major miles in the western conference" even mean? Let's not get too dramatic there, lol.

It means its a different conference. I can't believe so many people wrote off Tkachuk in that trade. The west is its own beast.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Salary retained w/ Hanifin and he's a very valuable piece.

Which is the reason you do futures deals. You retain salary now, you get cost controlled high prospect that grows, and by the the time the Hanifin retention comes off you are free to sign your high growth impact prospect.

Or you can do what the Calgary Flames are doing. Fumble in the dark because you can’t make up your mind strategically, or if you do it’s the very obvious wrong decision, and then force yourself to keep a languishing asset.

You know for such a “business wiz” Edwards is, you’d think he would figure out this stuff a bit quicker. Yes yes, more money today Murray I get it, but you’re ignoring the much much much much more money of the future you’re foregoing.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

We need to see more of those individual efforts here. That's why I don't like blaming coaching for all his issues. Darryl Sutter would have loved to see those moves in Calgary.

The highlight reel on Huberdeau is outstanding, but the criticism of him even when he was in Florida, is that he would be invisible for large portions of games before finally making something good happen.

Sutter didn't let the most creative forwards set up in the zone. He also had them endlessly skating up and down the ice, tiring out. It was also plainly obvious that the team wasn't practicing set offensive plays involving huberdeau. How many time did we see huberdeau make great passes into the slot to either a player who wasn't expecting a pass and fumbled it... Or nobody at all.

[Pickle Juice]

You can definitely notice a change with Conroy as GM. When BT was at the helm there was always reports from insiders talking about the flames being in on everyone and updates on contracts etc. I didn’t really expect us to be in on much but seems to be very quiet out there these days.

[dustygoon]

Kadri contract is what it is. Better to look forward. He is a unique player. The first half of that contract is fine (who knows about rest). But after hearing him in recent interviews, I like it more. He wants to make yyc his home. As Diss and others have said, it doesn’t make sense to contemplate trading him. We are losing at least one of Backlund or Lindholm most likely. We need centers.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by memphusk

That's great. He still isn't as good as Tkachuk and Gaudreau. Those guys performed while putting on major miles in the western conference and playing for what some seem to think was the devil. Those guys are better players.

Wouldn't the fact that Tkachuk returned Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt and a 1st indicate that Tkachuk was the better player? Not really sure who said Tkachuk wasn't the better player.

*insert old man yelling at clouds gif*

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

Wouldn't the fact that Tkachuk returned Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt and a 1st indicate that Tkachuk was the better player? Not really sure who said Tkachuk wasn't the better player.

*insert old man yelling at clouds gif*

Probably but it’s more that he was only 24

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by memphusk

That's great. He still isn't as good as Tkachuk and Gaudreau. Those guys performed while putting on major miles in the western conference and playing for what some seem to think was the devil. Those guys are better players.

Gaudreau didn't exactly have a good season last year either with his -33

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Pickle Juice

You can definitely notice a change with Conroy as GM. When BT was at the helm there was always reports from insiders talking about the flames being in on everyone and updates on contracts etc. I didn’t really expect us to be in on much but seems to be very quiet out there these days.

With zero cap space, the Flames simply cannot be in on anyone.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

With zero cap space, the Flames simply cannot be in on anyone.

I would think Conroy makes inquires, just as the former GM.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gaudreau didn't exactly have a good season last year either with his -33

He also dropped 41 points

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by flambers

I would think Conroy makes inquires, just as the former GM.

Smokey out there..... Flames are engaged in some trade talk activity, believe its Noah and 3 teams involved - situation is complex.

[Pickle Juice]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

With zero cap space, the Flames simply cannot be in on anyone.

Not Free Agents I’m referring to. They have 4 guys likely to be traded and haven’t herd a single report from an insider outside of our own to suggest we are in conversations with any particular team. My point is that this new management might be a little more tight lipped than Brads was.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Smokey out there..... Flames are engaged in some trade talk activity, believe its Noah and 3 teams involved - situation is complex.

Have to think a 3rd team has to be involved because of the cap.

[Pickle Juice]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Smokey out there..... Flames are engaged in some trade talk activity, believe its Noah and 3 teams involved - situation is complex.

I may or may not have been fishing for something from you! Thanks!

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Smokey out there..... Flames are engaged in some trade talk activity, believe its Noah and 3 teams involved - situation is complex.

Hopefully it's complex in that the Flames deal an extended Hanifin to one team, that team sends futures to the Flyers, and the Flyers send Konecny to the Flames.

[DJones]

Two years ago anyone saying Gaudreau and Tkachuk were better than Huberdeau would have been laughed at as a Homer.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by DJones

Two years ago anyone saying Gaudreau and Tkachuk were better than Huberdeau would have been laughed at as a Homer.

Well Steinberg other day showed how Huberdeau is actually the 4th most productive forward in the past 5 years. So by the numbers he is in fact better than Tkachuk and Gaudreau.