I don't think that we're stuck with huberdeau. I think after this season plays out, we'll be happy to have him.
Huderdeau, at his best, is an extremely dynamic, creative and competitive player. Last year we got a different version, and we don't know if that's due to coaching or Huberdeau.
Tkachuk thriving in Florida, suggests that it Calgary's coaching was the issue. As Tkachuk is now doing a lot of the things Huberdeau was doing in Florida. If you watch Huberdeau's highlight reals from Florida, he was pulling off very similar moves to Tkachuk. So likely Huberdeau didn't forget how to do that, the coaches just wouldn't let him:
Huderdeau, at his best, is an extremely dynamic, creative and competitive player. Last year we got a different version, and we don't know if that's due to coaching or Huberdeau.
Tkachuk thriving in Florida, suggests that it Calgary's coaching was the issue. As Tkachuk is now doing a lot of the things Huberdeau was doing in Florida. If you watch Huberdeau's highlight reals from Florida, he was pulling off very similar moves to Tkachuk. So likely Huberdeau didn't forget how to do that, the coaches just wouldn't let him:
We need to see more of those individual efforts here. That's why I don't like blaming coaching for all his issues. Darryl Sutter would have loved to see those moves in Calgary.
The highlight reel on Huberdeau is outstanding, but the criticism of him even when he was in Florida, is that he would be invisible for large portions of games before finally making something good happen.
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It's actually fine if Flames huberdeau were invisible for most of the game if he could make a couple big plays and come out with 2 assists at the end of the night.
We brought him in for his production (his 4 straight seasons of 1.2PPG). Not to be visually impressive for all 20 minutes on the ice.
There are plenty of guys who draw your eye while they're on the ice, but don't crack the scoresheet. I'd take what Florida huby brought every day, if it means we don't notice him much outside of when he's helping get the puck in the net.
We have other upcoming talents and speedsters like kylington who can bring the visibility part.
We need to see more of those individual efforts here. That's why I don't like blaming coaching for all his issues. Darryl Sutter would have loved to see those moves in Calgary.
The highlight reel on Huberdeau is outstanding, but the criticism of him even when he was in Florida, is that he would be invisible for large portions of games before finally making something good happen.
I'm sure Sutter would have loved to see it, but he certainly didn't create the opportunities for it. Pucks out, puck in deep, work hard, retrieve, back to point, shot on net!!!!!
It was so obvious that nothing Huberdeau does was going to work here under Sutter last season.
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As was mentioned on TV panel 13-28-19 were thought to be allowed to play a different style than rest of team that year. I recall an interview with assistant coach Huska where he said when those guys were put together they just started scoring and the team had to keep them together.
However that was not always the case. In fact when Sutter took over for last 20 games he didn't put them together until the last 10. The first 10 the team barely scored. Last 10 Gaudreau went like 1.2 ppg.
Even the following preseason Sutter went into it thinking 13-23 to start because he wanted to balance it out.
But like Huska said they put 13-28-19 and they just made plays and team had to stick with it.
I can't find the exact quote from Huska but thus is similar:
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“When we’ve needed a big goal, they’ve scored that goal. When there needs to be a big game, they’ve found a way to put together a big game for us,” Huska said. “The chemistry that those three guys have, it’s fun to watch, even for us behind the bench, to see some of the things that they’re able to do.”
I am happy to be corrected but I feel a lot of these posts about Huberdeau involved drastically different games. He tried hard to play the game coached to him. He battled on the boards, sucked at it, but tried - it wasn’t how he had played for all the rest of his career.
I understand he is the highest payed flame in our history, and that makes an easy whipping boy, but he gave it more games than most other players.
I get picking on someone, but the whole team took a nose dive. I just want to be told why Huberdeau is the whipping boy?
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I am happy to be corrected but I feel a lot of these posts about Huberdeau involved drastically different games. He tried hard to play the game coached to him. He battled on the boards, sucked at it, but tried - it wasn’t how he had played for all the rest of his career.
I understand he is the highest payed flame in our history, and that makes an easy whipping boy, but he gave it more games than most other players.
I get picking on someone, but the whole team took a nose dive. I just want to be told why Huberdeau is the whipping boy?
Huberdeau completely changed his defensive game, I will definitely give Sutter full credit for that. Hopefully he keeps it in him with renewed creative opportunities under Savard/Huska. I'm excited for what Huberdeau will be next season.
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Let’s not forget, Huberdeau put up 115 points playing primarily with Bennett and Duclair….
That's great. He still isn't as good as Tkachuk and Gaudreau. Those guys performed while putting on major miles in the western conference and playing for what some seem to think was the devil. Those guys are better players.
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That's great. He still isn't as good as Tkachuk and Gaudreau. Those guys performed while putting on major miles in the western conference and playing for what some seem to think was the devil. Those guys are better players.
Sutter was not the devil. Sure he missed the playoffs 2 out of the 3 years he coached in his second run, and we as fans were used to a higher percentage of playoff appearances under Ward, Peters and Gulutzan, but he was not the devil.
