2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Card seems weird for Hanifin. That looks more like a card for Kylington

I just checked they're only doing recoveries for forwards.

Here was his card during his career season a year ago.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1513932846959890451

[GioforPM]

Then I just don't get the "defensive impact" score. As far as I could tell he was usually out against the top players as well, even over Tanev.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Then I just don't get the "defensive impact" score. As far as I could tell he was usually out against the top players as well, even over Tanev.

I don't think it relates to QoC as much as it does with suppressing chances against, and impacting the partner's play. I honestly don't have the formula, but it's easy to discount data just because you don't agree with it. It's another perspective, and you can treat it whichever way you see fit.

I added it because it fit my eye test. I didn't think Hanifin impacted the game enough defensively, and the Hanifin - Andersson pairing had a quite high xGA/60 throughout the season. He had a lot more success when paired with Tanev, but in a smaller sample size.

As for comparing him to Troy Terry. There are probably around 30D I'd rather have ahead of Hanifin. With about 20-30 more I think are on the same level as him. Troy Terry I see in the 15-20 range of RW's with the likes of Konecny, and DeBrincat, and Meier.

[Sec214]

[topfiverecords]

Oh boy! Sec214 has been hiking!

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[kyuss275]

Sec214 is secretly Kim kardashian?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I don't think it relates to QoC as much as it does with suppressing chances against, and impacting the partner's play. I honestly don't have the formula, but it's easy to discount data just because you don't agree with it. It's another perspective, and you can treat it whichever way you see fit.

I added it because it fit my eye test. I didn't think Hanifin impacted the game enough defensively, and the Hanifin - Andersson pairing had a quite high xGA/60 throughout the season. He had a lot more success when paired with Tanev, but in a smaller sample size.

As for comparing him to Troy Terry. There are probably around 30D I'd rather have ahead of Hanifin. With about 20-30 more I think are on the same level as him. Troy Terry I see in the 15-20 range of RW's with the likes of Konecny, and DeBrincat, and Meier.

But I'm not discounting data, mainly because I don't see any data - just conclusions on vague categories. "Defensive impact" is a meaningless category unless there's some sort of correlation with actual events and results which have been calculated.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Oh boy! Sec214 has been hiking!

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Hahaha I wish just popping in to my favourite thread filled with my favourite creatures.

[prizefighterinferno]

Incredibly stoked to see a Sec post. Hanifin? These Leafs murmurs?

[getbak]

Keeping up with the Cardassians.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Hahaha I wish just popping in to my favourite thread filled with my favourite creatures.

Should be lots of Julius flowing this week

[dino7c]

The Hanifin/Nylander trade seems like something that will happen IMO

and I'm all for it

[Toonage]

It'll probably be Tanev & Vladar for Liljegren and a pick or something

[Paulie Walnuts]

Kim Kardashian gif does that mean its a 10 player deal?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Kim Kardashian gif does that mean its a 10 player deal?

Maybe it means we’re getting rid of Kadri. Divorce after one year

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Maybe it means we’re getting rid of Kadri. Divorce after one year

Or the Kris Humphries special a month was it?

Sherangovich on his way out?

[Murph]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Hahaha I wish just popping in to my favourite thread filled with my favourite creatures.

And like Kim, not much more than a tease?

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by prizefighterinferno

Incredibly stoked to see a Sec post. Hanifin? These Leafs murmurs?

I mean Leaf’s aren’t even cap compliant so I don’t see how they be adding without subtracting. They won’t be after term so in Calgary it’s either Tanev or Big Z or a rental Hanifin and that don’t get you the Nylanders of the world that people on here would want.

Hanifin front has 5 serious teams looking into him but I think only two are serious and have assets Calgary wants. Boston will wait to see if he makes it to FA. Buffalo has the asset but probably won’t part with the ask currently but they keep calling. Other teams are interested in the one year term Hanifin but he probably holds better value at the deadline than what’s currently being offered.

Markstrom is extremely motivated to come back and prove his haters wrong it will be here in Calgary. He is still an incredible team player and even if he lost his starting job he would be a good mentor to Wolf/Vladar like he currently is.

Lindholm and Flames continue to talk but as far as I’m hearing the flames are not moving on their offered number Larkin/Horvat money. A eastern team is interested in Lindholm for the year and extension would be sorted out later, I believe it’s Rangers.. Carolina is inserted but I don’t think the player is interested in a extension.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I don't think it relates to QoC as much as it does with suppressing chances against, and impacting the partner's play. I honestly don't have the formula, but it's easy to discount data just because you don't agree with it. It's another perspective, and you can treat it whichever way you see fit.

I added it because it fit my eye test. I didn't think Hanifin impacted the game enough defensively, and the Hanifin - Andersson pairing had a quite high xGA/60 throughout the season. He had a lot more success when paired with Tanev, but in a smaller sample size.

As for comparing him to Troy Terry. There are probably around 30D I'd rather have ahead of Hanifin. With about 20-30 more I think are on the same level as him. Troy Terry I see in the 15-20 range of RW's with the likes of Konecny, and DeBrincat, and Meier.

In other words, you are calling Hanifin a #2 D (1-30 would be a #1 D). Deployment last season and quality of competition were consistent with this. A mid-range 1 RW would be worth less than a top pairing D, so it would have to be a trade and sign deal.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Murph

And like Kim, not much more than a tease?