2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Cozens is simply not available.

They love him and he’s signed long term to a good contract.

Our only chance at Cozens was 3 years ago when Gaudreau still had term.

[dissentowner]

I was reading on The Athletic that the biggest need for the Ducks is a top 4 D man. I also wonder about Troy Terry, a RS RFA heading to arbitration. Would a Hanifin for Terry swap work?

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I was reading on The Athletic that the biggest need for the Ducks is a top 4 D man. I also wonder about Troy Terry, a RS RFA heading to arbitration. Would a Hanifin for Terry swap work?

It definitely would work for me!

[Kipper_3434]

Originally Posted by NegativeSpace

Missing Mang.


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Sorry Mang is "Bread"

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I was reading on The Athletic that the biggest need for the Ducks is a top 4 D man. I also wonder about Troy Terry, a RS RFA heading to arbitration. Would a Hanifin for Terry swap work?

Not for Anaheim

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I was reading on The Athletic that the biggest need for the Ducks is a top 4 D man. I also wonder about Troy Terry, a RS RFA heading to arbitration. Would a Hanifin for Terry swap work?

Flames would need to add ++

[Jiri Hrdina]

Why would the Flames have to add?
Let’s assumed Hanifin is willing to extend that seems like a fair exchange

[Aarongavey]

Ya the Flames do not need to add in a trade where they are trading a top 4 dman who puts up 40 points a year with limited PP time and they are getting a RW who is the same age and puts up 60 points a year.

The Flames would be trading an American who is one year from UFA for an American who is one year from UFA in that trade.

[NegativeSpace]

Originally Posted by Kipper_3434

Sorry Mang is "Bread"

Lol. So I misread Mang not you.


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[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Why would the Flames have to add?
Let’s assumed Hanifin is willing to extend that seems like a fair exchange

A season removed from 37 goals, top line calibre player. So top line RW for a #3D. It’s not terrible but I think the Flames add in that exchange.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Flames would need to add ++

Are 65pt wingers worth more than 45pt Dmen? Hanifin is a few months younger and plays a more crucial position.

[CliffFletcher]

Terry for Hanifin is pretty close to being fair in terms of value. But Terry has really good chemistry with linemate Zegras, and I doubt the Ducks want to mess with that. Not great management to fix one lineup hole by creating another big hole.

[prizefighterinferno]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

A season removed from 37 goals, top line calibre player. So top line RW for a #3D. It’s not terrible but I think the Flames add in that exchange.

Well on one hand Hanifin could play top minutes on almost every team in the league and is at worst a 3/4 on a stacked team. 20+ minutes a night, 35-45 points, 600 games already, that skating, etc.

Troy Terry has two seasons greater than 60 points. Same age as Hanifin, way less track record. Lots to like about the player as well but at worst I'd say it's pretty even, maybe small add by Anaheim since they are getting the rarer commodity. Top 6 guys are relatively findable. Guys who are (or are perceived as) top 2/3s are tougher.

Edit: If Anaheim is trading for Hanafin because they want to start turning the corner on the rebuild after drafting Mactavish and Carlsson the last couple years, I would like Owen Zellweger back please.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

A season removed from 37 goals, top line calibre player. So top line RW for a #3D. It’s not terrible but I think the Flames add in that exchange.

If Terry is a top line RW then Hanifin is a top pairing dman.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If Terry is a top line RW then Hanifin is a top pairing dman.

Yup, I see it as top 6 RW for a top 4 dman that can both play on the first line/pair.

[Heavy Jack]

++ added to Hanifin for Terry seems crazy to me; he’s only 9 months older than Terry but has played basically 600 games which is more than twice as much as Terry while being a big minutes Dman for a large part of those games. I think Hanifin is criminally underrated here and feel like at the very least a 1 for 1 trade here would be pretty close.

[PepsiFree]

Even 1 for 1 seems a little less than desirable from the Flames side, which is probably a sign that it’s very close to fair.

I think putting this lopsided in the Ducks’ favour is just another case of the “grass is always greener/Calgary players are garbage” sentiment that gets thrown around here. Hanifin has a ton of value in a player-for-player hockey trade.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If Terry is a top line RW then Hanifin is a top pairing dman.

Hanifin is our third best D. Depending where he’s moved, not unrealistic he plays on the top pair.

The UFA/RFA in this hypothetical exchange also tilts the value towards Terry.

So ‘++’ as I initially positioned was a bit much, but I do think Terry has more value and Flames would need to add.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

If Terry is a top line RW then Hanifin is a top pairing dman.

Personally I would be okay with Terry for Hanafin but I would want the Ducks to add a 2nd round pick. Terry may be a 1st line RW on a bad team like the Ducks but he's more of a 2nd line winger on a good team and they are within a year apart in age. I learned a long time ago that forwards that put up points on bad teams usually don't replicate that on good teams where they are either further down the depth chart or expected to play a team game.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Hanifin is our third best D. Depending where he’s moved, not unrealistic he plays on the top pair.

The UFA/RFA in this hypothetical exchange also tilts the value towards Terry.

So ‘++’ as I initially positioned was a bit much, but I do think Terry has more value and Flames would need to add.

I don’t agree. The team getting Terry needs to pay him now in a flat cap world where Hanifin comes at a very nice cap number for this year and with a rising cap most teams will be able to absorb the raise he needs.

Terry was a top RW on one of the worst teams in the league. Hanifin at least was a top pairing D on a team that was top 3 in goals against in 2022.

The 1 for 1 value is close but if there is a plus I think the Ducks are the team to add not the Flames.