[Trade] DeBrincat (4 x $7.875mil AAV) to DET for Kubalik, Sebrango, cond 1st, 4th

[Monahammer]

Imo some of the nicest properties in the Midwest still ring Detroit.

Great trade by Yzerman. Really like what he's building in Detroit.

[Canada 02]

so does Tarasenko sign with the Sens?

[CFO]

####ty trade for ottawa

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think this saga is going to be what ends up costing Dorion his job under new ownership. Giving up five picks in the first two rounds (including 7 and 12th overall) for DeBrincat and Chychrun, missing the playoffs anyway, and then flipping DeBrincat for a late first and some spare parts a year later. Really uninspiring work.

Can't agree with this affecting Doiron. It's revisionist history at its finest.

He makes the best deals he can at the time he makes them.

DeBrincat not wanting to sign long term wasn't and couldn't be known at the time that the trade with Chicago was made.

Further, I don't get how the Chychrun trade gets rolled into the DeBrincat trade to Detroit.

Garbage journalism looking to create fire where there is no smoke.

[powderjunkie]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Can't agree with this affecting Doiron. It's revisionist history at its finest.

He makes the best deals he can at the time he makes them.

DeBrincat not wanting to sign long term wasn't and couldn't be known at the time that the trade with Chicago was made.

Further, I don't get how the Chychrun trade gets rolled into the DeBrincat trade to Detroit.

Garbage journalism looking to create fire where there is no smoke.

Nah, it was a dumb trade at the time.Debrincat not re-signing was an obvious risk.

And it doesn't seem unreasonable to consider the Chychrun trade if we're discussing the GM.

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today's trade return and 2 more years of Chychrun, and if you want you can add Giroux

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Canadian GM wants to rush the rebuild and gives up draft capital and the trade ends up biting them in the ass. Sounds familiar

Canadian fan bases are rabid and impatient. Everyone thinks they know what is best for the team, and it turns the GM's job into a pressure cooker.

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[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

Nah, it was a dumb trade at the time.Debrincat not re-signing was an obvious risk.

I don't agree.

It's why he is a GM and you are sitting on your couch debating trades with me.

Doiron made his team better NOW, that's his job.

[Vinny01]

When you factor in what Ottawa paid a year ago with the results they had this is an underwhelming return. Looking at the sign and trades the Flames traded the best player and got the best return in Tkachuk. The jets got a nice package for Dubois. The Sens didn’t do well here but neither did Debrincat getting only 4 years. I suppose at 29 he will be in line for another max payday so it could work out well for him.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Canadian GM wants to rush the rebuild and gives up draft capital and the trade ends up biting them in the ass. Sounds familiar

I completely disagree with the take the rebuild was rushed in Ottawa. Once they paid Tkachuk the clock was ticking on their window so they started to push chips in the middle last year by acquiring a 25 year old Debrincat and 25 year old Chychrun to be people that they hope would be part of the long term core.

The Flames window was the Gaudreau extension and for Ottawa it is this current Tkachuk deal which they have 5 years left. Lucky for them they may have another franchise player in Stutzle.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think this saga is going to be what ends up costing Dorion his job under new ownership. Giving up five picks in the first two rounds (including 7 and 12th overall) for DeBrincat and Chychrun, missing the playoffs anyway, and then flipping DeBrincat for a late first and some spare parts a year later. Really uninspiring work.

Late first, is Detroit all of the sudden beating out Toronto, Tampa, Florida, Carolina, NYR, New Jersey, Islanders, Boston, Buffalo or Pittsburgh? Suspect that pick is a top 12 pick. Ottawa themselves are also a better team on paper than the Red Wings.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Late first, is Detroit all of the sudden beating out Toronto, Tampa, Florida, Carolina, NYR, New Jersey, Islanders, Boston, Buffalo or Pittsburgh? Suspect that pick is a top 12 pick. Ottawa themselves are also a better team on paper than the Red Wings.

The pick is Detroit's choice of Boston or Detroit's 2024 1st or in the case Boston is top 10 in 2024, Detroit's 2024 1st or Boston's 2025 1st.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Canadian fan bases are rabid and impatient. Everyone thinks they know what is best for the team, and it turns the GM's job into a pressure cooker.

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Exactly, this is why we get situations where we sign multiple aging vets to retirement contracts to keep them here while not being a contender and rarely, if ever, properly rebuild.

Ottawa is the closest to properly rebuilding, but even for them it's mostly due to prior financial constraints that caused sell offs.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

Fantastic news, hopefully this trade wakes up some GMs to put in real offers for Lindholm and Hanifin

Actually, it shows that players needing contracts have less value that hoped for.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

This deal needs to be taken off the table ASAP.

So he goes UFA, and Flames trade him as a rental.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

So he goes UFA, and Flames trade him as a rental.

That's a better long-term option than paying him for the years his production will be in decline.

[Party Elephant]

Not a full-on blockbuster, but much more of a blockbuster than that Kevin Hayes non-trade

[FormerPresJamesTaylor]

Farmington has to be one of the silliest town names.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Easy to fleece the other GM when it's widely known that the player will only sign an extension with a small number of teams.
This is the disadvantage hitting canadian markets. These players are prepared to hit the market with preferred destinations in mind, that are generally known, so it's hard to extract great value.

Should be evident by now that Canadian GMs are playing with fire trading for American stars on short contracts. And GMs in general need to recognize that players are increasingly exercising leverage to choose where they play. The NHL is changing, and team braintrusts need to adapt to the new reality.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Canadian fan bases are rabid and impatient. Everyone thinks they know what is best for the team, and it turns the GM's job into a pressure cooker.

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I keep hearing this, but ai also keeps hearing fans cmscream for patience. I think its Canadian owners and media that are not patient.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Should be evident by now that Canadian GMs are playing with fire trading for American stars on short contracts. And GMs in general need to recognize that players are increasingly exercising leverage to choose where they play. The NHL is changing, and team braintrusts need to adapt to the new reality.

Correct. NBA written all over it.