[Trade] DeBrincat (4 x $7.875mil AAV) to DET for Kubalik, Sebrango, cond 1st, 4th

[Harry Lime]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Kind of proves my point. Lindholm has been here for half a decade already. If that doesn't earn some form of loyalty, trade his ass. If he only wants to stay to be overpaid, that's a pretty pathetic look for the Flames.

If I understand correctly, you want an assless lindholm to play here next year, on a discounted contract, with another asset in place of his old ass, which you've traded.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

This makes Lindholm's humming and hawing for 8x$9M look like an absolute joke.

Need to abolish this concept of a Calgary tax

Either get on board or enjoy assuredly less money and term elsewhere.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

If I understand correctly, you want an assless lindholm to play here next year, on a discounted contract, with another asset in place of his old ass, which you've traded.

No, I want him to not be here crippling the franchise until 2032 with all those other retirement contracts Treliving threw around for players whose only motivation was to cash out. Trade him for whatever he's worth, I don't care. This team is not winning anything regardless.

[powderjunkie]

7OA
39OA
3rd

for

1st likely to be in the teens or lower
4th
Former 63OA pick who spent half the year in ECHL and half in AHL
Solid 2nd line winger with 1 yr to UFA, who could've been had for a ham sandwich a year ago


Yikes.

[Tkachukwagon]

Sebrango may have some value. Played for team Canada in the world juniors in 2021. Apparently is a decent mobile defenceman with NHL upside but was buried in the defensive depth that Red Wings have. He’s also from Ottawa.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

This makes Lindholm's humming and hawing for 8x$9M look like an absolute joke.

If what's been posted on Twitter by that unknown insider is true Lindholm isn't humming and hawing over money. He's humming and hawing over committing long-term to a team who he's not sure the direction they're going as he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild. Atleast not right away.

Conroy doesn't have to wait for his decision to make other moves. The only other player I can see it affecting moving is maybe Backlund. He knows Hanifin wants to go back to the States so Lindholm's decision doesn't matter.

[InternationalVillager]

Wow Ottawa got taken to the cleaners on this one.

[TheScorpion]

I think this saga is going to be what ends up costing Dorion his job under new ownership. Giving up five picks in the first two rounds (including 7 and 12th overall) for DeBrincat and Chychrun, missing the playoffs anyway, and then flipping DeBrincat for a late first and some spare parts a year later. Really uninspiring work.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Tidy off-season for the Wings who are looking to reshape the roster and compete now. A mini-retooling during the rebuild. Depth chart roughly looks like this now:

Perron-Larkin-Debrincat
Fabbri-Compher-Raymond
Kostin-Copp-Berggren
Fischer-Rasmussen-Sprong

Walman-Seider
Gostisbehere-Chiarot
Maata-Holl

Husso
Reimer

Still needs work on defense and in goal, but the forward group is starting to shape up nicely.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think this saga is going to be what ends up costing Dorion his job under new ownership. Giving up five picks in the first two rounds (including 7 and 12th overall) for DeBrincat and Chychrun, missing the playoffs anyway, and then flipping DeBrincat for a late first and some spare parts a year later. Really uninspiring work.

Also, gave a division rival a 40 goal scorer. Could really come back to burn their playoff aspirations over the next 4 years.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Wow Ottawa got fleeced.

Yzerman reclaims himself after some ugly UFA work.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think this saga is going to be what ends up costing Dorion his job under new ownership. Giving up five picks in the first two rounds (including 7 and 12th overall) for DeBrincat and Chychrun, missing the playoffs anyway, and then flipping DeBrincat for a late first and some spare parts a year later. Really uninspiring work.

All to please an aging veteran to sign a retirement contract there…

But hey, maybe the excitement drove up the sale bids.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I think this saga is going to be what ends up costing Dorion his job under new ownership. Giving up five picks in the first two rounds (including 7 and 12th overall) for DeBrincat and Chychrun, missing the playoffs anyway, and then flipping DeBrincat for a late first and some spare parts a year later. Really uninspiring work.

Canadian GM wants to rush the rebuild and gives up draft capital and the trade ends up biting them in the ass. Sounds familiar

[Rutuu]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Wow Ottawa got fleeced.

Yzerman reclaims himself after some ugly UFA work.

Feels more like a Phaneuf for Stajan and stuff trade...where both teams end up kinda losing.

Chicago is the clear winner.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Rutuu

Feels more like a Phaneuf for Stajan and stuff trade...where both teams end up kinda losing.

Chicago is the clear winner.

Awful market conditions, and a player that handcuffed his team into one specific destination.

Probably more comparable to the Iggy trade. A mid-late 1st and some magic beans.

[The Yen Man]

DeBrincat is also 4 years younger than Lindy, so a 4 year contract takes him to 29. For Lindholm, it's all about term. Why would he be willing to sign for lesser term? If I were him, I'd tell Calgary max term, or I'm testing the FA market next year.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

This makes Lindholm's humming and hawing for 8x$9M look like an absolute joke.

This deal needs to be taken off the table ASAP.

[boogerz]

At least Ottawa got a first and a decent prospect for a guy that handcuffed them

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Wow Ottawa got fleeced.

Yzerman reclaims himself after some ugly UFA work.

Easy to fleece the other GM when it's widely known that the player will only sign an extension with a small number of teams.
This is the disadvantage hitting canadian markets. These players are prepared to hit the market with preferred destinations in mind, that are generally known, so it's hard to extract great value.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

In fairness, DeBrincat is from Detroit and wanted to play close to home.

As per Wikipedia:

Farmington Hills is well known for its luxury estates, its rolling hills, and is also listed on Forbes as one of the most prosperous suburbs in the US, with a household net worth of $725,120.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farm...ills,_Michigan