[Rumour] Chris Johnston: Lindholm is interested in staying

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by Spurs

If Lindholm comes back with no other major changes we are the 4th best team in the division, and that might be harsh to Seattle who last year earned their spot above us.

We could get lucky and have other teams get major injuries but that is no way to go into a season hoping for major luck.

You must make a killing at sports betting being able to predict things like this with such certainty.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Hi-Psi

Lindholm isn't going anywhere, Backlund shouldn't either. They're both our core, half/half from the new/old guard.

Sign them both. Make Backlund the Captain, Lindholm the assistant. Or backwards, if that makes either happier...

Lindholm is the old guard, Backlund is the older guard. Signing Lindholm takes up any room we would have left for a new guard.

Lindholm would've been perfect for that veteran role, but those spots are already taken.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

1 per a team is enough or 1 per position.

Plus 4 year term in UFA and 5 from your own team with the own team being a able to offer more money from singing bonuses.

If you want players to agree to those concessions, you’ll need to reduce the time to UFA to a few years.

Plus, the majority of teams don’t want those changes.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Pat is stating the ask, not the offer

It's the offer.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Stampede2TheCup

You must make a killing at sports betting being able to predict things like this with such certainty.

Do they have odds that teams won't win the Stanley Cup?

I am not a bettor but if they do and you can make a killing as you say let me know where.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well Lindholm was part of two 50 win teams 1 of which won the west in the regular season.

I wouldn't call it medicore.

It's not easy to win in the playoffs and with a different cast and better coaching they might break through.

How far did those teams go in the play-offs? What happened in the seasons in between?

If we had two seasons in a row with those results, maybe you could try to stretch it out to us being close to a break through, But we have seasons of missing the play-offs and going out weakly in the play-offs surrounding those seasons to think it is a really good team just with some bad play-off luck.

Hoping that Huska is providing better coaching than what we had in the past is pretty unrealistic, hoping that his coaching will be enough to take this team from first and 2nd round losses to Stanley Cup Champions seems borderline impossible.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Stampede2TheCup

I don't think calling him a 60 point player now is fair or accurate at all. He scored 64 points with the dressing room in disarray and a major lack of chemistry on the top line. Players have down years and bounce back all the time. There's enough talent on the team for him to score more than that even without Tkachuk and Gaudreau.

To be fair. He is a 60 point player. He has 82 and 78 as his best two years. Covid season prorated to 68. His career average is 56.6.

So he's going to be over 60 some years but I doubt he has too many point-per-game seasons left in him.

Great player and I wish he would stay and take over Backlund's role as he ages, but it doesn't seem like he wants that if the rumblings that he wants out are true.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by Spurs

Do they have odds that teams won't win the Stanley Cup?

I am not a bettor but if they do and you can make a killing as you say let me know where.

I don't know exactly where or how, but if you can be so certain about accurately making predictions like the one I quoted at this point in the offseason, I do know you could make make a killing. You should definitely look into it! A betting marketplace/exchange would be the most straightforward way to bet against a team winning the cup. There should be other ways to do it in other sportsbooks too.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Stampede2TheCup

I don't know exactly where or how, but if you can be so certain about accurately making predictions like the one I quoted at this point in the offseason, I do know you could make make a killing. You should definitely look into it! A betting marketplace/exchange would be the most straightforward way to bet against a team winning the cup. There should be other ways to do it in other sportsbooks too.

It not just the Flames, the Ducks, Wings, Blackhawks, Blue Jackets, Canucks, Sharks, Canadiens probably more are all not winning the Cup. Doesn't take an amazing betting skill to see that.

Are you really pretending that people don't know a number of teams that won't win their league's championship in the summer? If sports books allowed betting like this they would be bankrupt.

I think you are underestimating how much sports books don't want to give away money. Can't imagine you are getting odds for those teams not to win the Cup.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Spurs

How far did those teams go in the play-offs? What happened in the seasons in between?

If we had two seasons in a row with those results, maybe you could try to stretch it out to us being close to a break through, But we have seasons of missing the play-offs and going out weakly in the play-offs surrounding those seasons to think it is a really good team just with some bad play-off luck.

Hoping that Huska is providing better coaching than what we had in the past is pretty unrealistic, hoping that his coaching will be enough to take this team from first and 2nd round losses to Stanley Cup Champions seems borderline impossible.

Well I'm going to look at the bright side.

We have a staff that is goimg to create a fun environment for players to be around with coaches preaching playing a entertaining brand of hockey and reenergized players coming in this surrounding and young players being given a chance.

It's takes time to win in the playoffs. It's not easy and lots of things have to go your way.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well I'm going to look at the bright side.

We have a staff that is goimg to create a fun environment for players to be around with coaches preaching playing a entertaining brand of hockey and reenergized players coming in this surrounding and young players being given a chance.

It's takes time to win in the playoffs. It's not easy and lots of things have to go your way.

How do you know the coaches will do that? And even if it were true if there any evidence that leads to success?

I agree it is not easy to win in the play-offs which is why having a middle of the pack roster isn't the way to win a Cup.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Spurs

How do you know the coaches will do that? And even if it were true if there any evidence that leads to success?

I agree it is not easy to win in the play-offs which is why having a middle of the pack roster isn't the way to win a Cup.

What do mean how do I know that's exactly what they said.

Go listen to Marc Savard talking about creating a environment that players won't want to go home.

Lots of people have talked about how much fun the players will have with him.

It's not just fun though but a style that preaches speed and offence and being responsible when you have that opportunity that you will back check and play hard in your own zone.

Why not be excited

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Spurs

How do you know the coaches will do that? And even if it were true if there any evidence that leads to success?

I agree it is not easy to win in the play-offs which is why having a middle of the pack roster isn't the way to win a Cup.

There isn't a set recipe to winning the cup. There's a reason it's rare a presidents trophy winner actually wins it.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What do mean how do I know that's exactly what they said.

Go listen to Marc Savard talking about creating a environment that players won't want to go home.

Lots of people have talked about how much fun the players will have with him.

It's not just fun though but a style that preaches speed and offence and being responsible when you have that opportunity that you will back check and play hard in your own zone.

Why not be excited

Saying one thing and then doing one thing are two totally different things. i am sure no coach says I going to make this a miserable time for the players and have them hating everything.

Also saying they will create something and having the players able to do that is also something completely different.

If you wanted to be excited go ahead but for me I see no reason to be.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by Spurs

It not just the Flames, the Ducks, Wings, Blackhawks, Blue Jackets, Canucks, Sharks, Canadiens probably more are all not winning the Cup. Doesn't take an amazing betting skill to see that.

Are you really pretending that people don't know a number of teams that won't win their league's championship in the summer? If sports books allowed betting like this they would be bankrupt.

I think you are underestimating how much sports books don't want to give away money. Can't imagine you are getting odds for those teams not to win the Cup.

I'm very familiar with the ins and outs of how sports books work. By the sounds of it much more familiar than you. I've used them in the past, I know someone who works for one, and I had a friend of a friend who owned one. I just don't currently use them much now. All I was saying was that if you can make claims on how teams will do with such certainty right now, you should be making a killing with sports betting one way or another. I'm not here to educate you on all the ins and outs and possibilities when I doubt you're seriously interested. If you're truly interested, you can do some research and figure it out. Just google "betting market" or "betting exchange" like I mentioned in my last post for starters.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

There isn't a set recipe to winning the cup. There's a reason it's rare a presidents trophy winner actually wins it.

Who said there was a set recipe to win?

I said there are set ways to not win it that has been shown.

The Presidents trophy winners not winning it doesn't mean it is a free for all from every other team. It takes talent to win. Mediocre teams don't win the Cup.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Stampede2TheCup

I'm very familiar with the ins and outs of how sports books work. By the sounds of it much more familiar than you. I've used them in the past, I know someone who works for one, and I had a friend of a friend who owned one. I just don't currently use them much now. All I was saying was that if you can make claims on how teams will do with such certainty right now, you should be making a killing with sports betting one way or another. I'm not here to educate you on all the ins and outs and possibilities when I doubt you're seriously interested. If you're truly interested, you can do some research and figure it out. Just google "betting market" or "betting exchange" like I mentioned in my last post for starters.

LOL

So no you don't know of any place that you can bet for teams to not win the Cup? That is what I thought.

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by Spurs

LOL

So no you don't know of any place that you can bet for teams to not win the Cup? That is what I thought.

Betfair is an example which I've used in the past, and it's still an option if you live in country outside Canada that's allows bettors from your country. It's an ever changing landscape and I don't keep up with all of the sites. You obviously didn't take the advice to Google "betting market" or "betting exchange", as they don't work like standard sportsbooks.

There are also methods do what you're saying on normal sportsbooks that would involve multiple bets. There's a plethora of information about it on the internet. I'm not going to argue anymore about it with someone who won't do a simple Google search and will still argue stubbornly when they don't know that they're talking about.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Stampede2TheCup

Betfair is an example which I've used in the past, and it's still an option if you live in country outside Canada that's allows bettors from your country. It's an ever changing landscape and I don't keep up with all of the sites. You obviously didn't take the advice to Google "betting market" or "betting exchange", as they don't work like standard sportsbooks.

There are also methods do what you're saying on normal sportsbooks that would involve multiple bets. There's a plethora of information about it on the internet. I'm not going to argue anymore about it with someone who won't do a simple Google search and will still argue stubbornly when they don't know that they're talking about.

Sigh, I thought you'd know by now that's all he does. On.any.topic!

[Stampede2TheCup]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

Sigh, I thought you'd know by now that's all he does. On.any.topic!

Haha, I started to get that impression. When the season ended I pretty much took a vacation from here to avoid all of the negativity. Now that it's an exciting time of year and I want to be here, I'll have to sort through all the weeds I guess.