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Old 06-30-2023, 12:52 PM   #81
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why? they trying to get worse
Exactly.

Yamamoto was awful last year.

Couldn’t even produce playing with McDavid or Draisaitl.
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Old 06-30-2023, 12:56 PM   #83
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Yeah.. GM's really need to band together to stop this nonsense. These contracts were and are still getting out of hand. The structures of these deals are absolutely terrible.

Stop handing out long term, high dollar deals to players on the back end of their careers, which provide no beneficial value to an organization long term.
Will never happen, GM's are pretty cutthroat when it comes to their team. It would not take long at all for a GM to break ranks to land a player they want.
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Old 06-30-2023, 12:59 PM   #84
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Yamamoto seems like an Islander in my mind.
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Old 06-30-2023, 01:00 PM   #85
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Will never happen, GM's are pretty cutthroat when it comes to their team. It would not take long at all for a GM to break ranks to land a player they want.
And all that would happen is salaries would just be redistributed amongst players. Also most GMs don’t care about four years into the future
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Yamamoto isn't very good. I wouldn't have any interest in him even if my team had cap space and some openings.
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Old 06-30-2023, 01:01 PM   #87
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Nice GMing here.

Predators will have $11M in dead cap space with Duchene, Johansen, and Turris in the 2024-2025 season.
Poile retires for a few months and this is what you get!
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Yamamoto would look interesting in Florida on a line with Tkachuk and Bennett.
LOL.

I guess that's a word you could use to describe it.


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Is there a Jfresh on Yamamoto, I would say his WAR would be ~50% so he would be serviceable. And, if you could get him for like 1MM, the chance of him succeeding would be worth the risk just to shame the oilers. Those players always improve when they leave.
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Is there a Jfresh on Yamamoto, I would say his WAR would be ~50% so he would be serviceable. And, if you could get him for like 1MM, the chance of him succeeding would be worth the risk just to shame the oilers. Those players always improve when they leave.
Some improve, like Dubnyk or Schultz. Some fall right out of the league like Yakupov or Nilsson.
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Old 06-30-2023, 01:13 PM   #91
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Yzerman doing Edmonton a solid is disgusting.

That trade should be investigated two buddies linking up to help Edmonton clear cap.
Yzerman hands Christopher Ilitch a fat check for $1,066.668


Ilitch - whats this?

Yzerman - rebate from rexall drugs
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Old 06-30-2023, 02:12 PM   #92
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The Duchene one is kinda nuts when you consider:

Buyout = 19.3M spread over 6 years + 2.25M over 3 years for a replacement player = 21.6M

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24M over 3 years

In cash terms it's more like $15.3M vs $20M (though again that 15.3 could become 17.6M if you factor a replacement player


Is saving only ~15% really worth spreading the pain over 6 years?

Kinda shocking there were no takers at 50% for a 65pt pace player this year who scored 43g/86p in 78 gp the year before.
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I think I want to see the Flames give Duchene a 2-year deal on the cheap and see how he does with Huberdeau
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I think I want to see the Flames give Duchene a 2-year deal on the cheap and see how he does with Huberdeau
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The Duchene one is kinda nuts when you consider:

Buyout = 19.3M spread over 6 years + 2.25M over 3 years for a replacement player = 21.6M

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24M over 3 years

In cash terms it's more like $15.3M vs $20M (though again that 15.3 could become 17.6M if you factor a replacement player


Is saving only ~15% really worth spreading the pain over 6 years?

Kinda shocking there were no takers at 50% for a 65pt pace player this year who scored 43g/86p in 78 gp the year before.
Maybe he is actually not good in the room so that's the price to get rid of him. In that case not a surprise that they couldn't sell him with a commensurate cap retention.
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is there a jfresh on yamamoto, i would say his war would be ~50% so he would be serviceable. And, if you could get him for like 1mm, the chance of him succeeding would be worth the risk just to shame the oilers. Those players always improve when they leave.
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I think I want to see the Flames give Duchene a 2-year deal on the cheap and see how he does with Huberdeau
I'm pretty sure every team will be looking to add Duchene. Especially if it's at 6M or less.
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Yamamoto actually scored above his draft position. 12th in points v 22nd in placement. TBF 7 picked above him are dmen so if you remove the 5 not named Makar or Heiskenan, he's 12 in points versus 17th in placement.
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Thanks, So why is it that he had such a bad year, but this doesn't show it?
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What are the preds up to? Is the buyout of Duchene and the give away of Johansson just to make them a worse team for next year so they have a higher draft position? Are they making cap room to take on bad contracts to gain draft capital? Are they making room for guys like Nylander or Lindholm? I’m truly not sure what their plan is. Got the impression at the draft they were almost going for full rebuild.


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