2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[cannon7]

I should really put together a compilation of "wait and see posts over the years. Never gets old.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I should really put together a compilation of "wait and see posts over the years. Never gets old.

put that next to your "this team is terrible" posts in years they won the division

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by dino7c

put that next to your "this team is terrible" posts in years they won the division

Find me just one. Good luck.

[Naitix]

How about this: Tanev for Toronto 1st from Boston (28th), then Flames trade this year second (48) for some 22-27 years Old D to replace Tanev. Basically a move up in the draft by 20 spots + good Dman for Tanev. Update: thinking this is more of a deadline trade, I bet too much uncertainty in his health.

[iloveicedhockey]

I'm resigned that no first round picks are going anywhere for players, at least until the draft, where maybe some teams switch spots. Everyone wants to pick.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by dino7c

You are assuming Toffoli would have another career season

he is the only skill lost at the moment

The fourth line will have far more skill on it

I didn't assume anything about Toffoli. There are more moves to be made where the Flames will all but certainly be giving up the best player in the deal. Hanifin, for one. If I'm assuming anything, it's that the bargain bin coaching staff isn't going to work miracles.

But yes, Toffoli for this Shaggy guy is a pretty obvious downgrade in talent, barring a significant fluke based on nothing but hopes, rainbows, and the power of friendship - the kind Jay Feaster loved to peddle with a "wait and see" tagged on.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

I didn't assume anything about Toffoli. There are more moves to be made where the Flames will all but certainly be giving up the best player in the deal. Hanifin, for one. If I'm assuming anything, it's that the bargain bin coaching staff isn't going to work miracles.

But yes, Toffoli for this Shaggy guy is a pretty obvious downgrade in talent, barring a significant fluke based on nothing but hopes, rainbows, and the power of friendship - the kind Jay Feaster loved to peddle.

I'll wait and see the roster but I'm pretty confident the Flames will score more goals this season

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by Naitix

How about this: Tanev for Toronto 1st from Boston (28th), then Flames trade this year second (48) for some 22-27 years Old D to replace Tanev. Basically a move up in the draft by 20 spots + good Dman for Tanev

If we're talking Toronto, how about just Hanifin for Nylander and we keep Tanev?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Naitix

How about this: Tanev for Toronto 1st from Boston (28th), then Flames trade this year second (48) for some 22-27 years Old D to replace Tanev. Basically a move up in the draft by 20 spots + good Dman for Tanev

I'd love it from the Flames perspective but I think Tanev would get a couple seconds at the trade deadline and maybe a 1st if a contender got desperate. Feels like a second is stretch for him at this draft.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I should really put together a compilation of "wait and see posts over the years. Never gets old.

Well in this case I think it's a fair point.

Makes sense to not be making predictions about how many goals the team will score next year, or if they will be better or worse until we actually see the roster.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Well in this case I think it's a fair point.

Makes sense to not be making predictions about how many goals the team will score next year, or if they will be better or worse until we actually see the roster.

no, he totally predicted a Vegas/Florida final last summer

why wait and see when you know what is going to happen

The Flames on paper did far worse than people expected this season


I mean bring back a "worse" team with Kylington, a better Huberdeau, and decent goaltending...probably breaks 93 points IMO

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Find me just one. Good luck.

I don't even know how to search that far back but if you don't think you made negative posts like this after the Canadian div season you have medium term memory loss

[HitterD]

Originally Posted by dino7c

no, he totally predicted a Vegas/Florida final last summer

why wait and see when you know what is going to happen

The Flames on paper did far worse than people expected this season

And far better the season before than predicted as well. Most media had the flames missing the playoffs the year they won the division. It’s a crapshoot in the NHL these days.

[Flames1217]

Another move coming ?

Let's keep it moving!!!

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Naitix

How about this: Tanev for Toronto 1st from Boston (28th), then Flames trade this year second (48) for some 22-27 years Old D to replace Tanev. Basically a move up in the draft by 20 spots + good Dman for Tanev. Update: thinking this is more of a deadline trade, I bet too much uncertainty in his health.

Tanev will not bring a first round pick in this year's draft.

And you edit is correct, Tanev, if healthy, will be a deadline deal, and if playing up to par, way well be worth a late first in the 2024 draft.

[bluejays]

I bet there are a ton of teams starting at Buffalo who have particular guys they want, and if those guys are taken they’ll make a deal. Pretty obvious statement but I think that’s why there hasn’t been any deals yet. The moves back are a guarantee once 20 or so comes up.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Naitix

How about this: Tanev for Toronto 1st from Boston (28th), then Flames trade this year second (48) for some 22-27 years Old D to replace Tanev. Basically a move up in the draft by 20 spots + good Dman for Tanev. Update: thinking this is more of a deadline trade, I bet too much uncertainty in his health.

No team is trading a 1st round pick for Tanev at any point, trade deadline or otherwise.

[Red Potato Standing By]

Originally Posted by cannon7

I should really put together a compilation of "wait and see posts over the years. Never gets old.

So other then wait and see option, what other option does a fan have other then cheering for a different team? Yes I guess don’t spend money( I don’t as I live nowhere near Calgary) so I have a choice of be negative about it or just wait and see what happens knowing I have no control over it.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

No team is trading a 1st round pick for Tanev at any point, trade deadline or otherwise.

Florida traded a first Ben Chiarot and it was damn near a lottery pick

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

No team is trading a 1st round pick for Tanev at any point, trade deadline or otherwise.

Yeah, I feel like at best a contending team will drop a 2nd for a healthy Tavev at the deadline.