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Old 06-28-2023, 07:44 AM   #2261
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Friedman on the 32 thought podcast says Treliving has called on all available d-men including the Flames Hanifin, Tanev, and Zadorov
I hope Conny treads carefully. The Leafs traditionally haven't been a great trade partner for the Flames.
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:04 AM   #2263
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I hope Conny treads carefully. The Leafs traditionally haven't been a great trade partner for the Flames.
I welcome it. The Leafs have a 1st, Treliving would likely move it for better help on the back end. Tanev (50%) + Vladar for Murray, 1st (28th OA), Timmins, random prospect
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I wonder if there is actually some interest in Jones, and this is Chicago's way of encouraging him to waive?
Interesting speculation. I could see it. Chicago has been making waves for big change and defensemen are at a premium right now. I wonder who might be interested though.
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I hope Conny treads carefully. The Leafs traditionally haven't been a great trade partner for the Flames.
Calgary did well the last time. Rittich for the 2022 Toronto third round pick, which was then traded for Zadorov (signing rights). Rittich ended up playing 4 games for the Leafs. Zadorov is going to either be a mainstay or traded for as decent return.
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:26 AM   #2266
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Interesting speculation. I could see it. Chicago has been making waves for big change and defensemen are at a premium right now. I wonder who might be interested though.
As bad as the analytics say Seth Jones is, he was the main man for team US at the word championship and did not look bad.

I think if he got moved down to the 2nd pairing on a good team against lesser opponents he would look so much better. But what team with a very good first pairing has the cap space and the stupidity to make such a trade?

If Edmonton had the cap space, I could see them doing something like this. They will think their first pairing is elite, and maybe Chicago picks up some of their one year cap crap, Edmonton signs brother Jones and away they go.

Juts pure speculation, but Seth was a Bowman move, and they've been backtracking on that ever since he got the boot.
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Thats Caleb not being qualified, not Seth.
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As bad as the analytics say Seth Jones is, he was the main man for team US at the word championship and did not look bad.

I think if he got moved down to the 2nd pairing on a good team against lesser opponents he would look so much better. But what team with a very good first pairing has the cap space and the stupidity to make such a trade?

If Edmonton had the cap space, I could see them doing something like this. They will think their first pairing is elite, and maybe Chicago picks up some of their one year cap crap, Edmonton signs brother Jones and away they go.

Juts pure speculation, but Seth was a Bowman move, and they've been backtracking on that ever since he got the boot.

Seth Jones has a 9.5 million dollar cap hit until 2030. One of the worst deals in the league, he won’t be moved.
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I welcome it. The Leafs have a 1st, Treliving would likely move it for better help on the back end. Tanev (50%) + Vladar for Murray, 1st (28th OA), Timmins, random prospect
You make a good point. Draft picks have always been valued as currency by Treliving. If any GM is going to move a 1st round pick today it's him.
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:49 AM   #2272
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Tanev should be traded for sure
I'd probably hang on to Tanev until the deadline. Reason being that Kylington should be returning this season. He's been out of game action for a full year and I think it'd be valuable to have a stabilizing guy like Tanev next to him when he returns.
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Friedman also on the 32T podcast:

Not sure how busy they will be for the rest of the week
Heard there is interest in Zadorov
Hanifin isn't imminent
Still trying to sign Lindholm

Conroy is not in a rush

Wouldn't be surprised if Chris Snow's analytics was the one pushing for Sharangovich
I hope the not busy rest of the week comment means that they're staying out of the UFA signings.

I like Zadorov but if there's interest and it gets us more picks this draft do it.

Hanifin not imminent means nothing, all it takes is one good offer to come in.

Sure, try to sign Lindholm until you get a good offer instead, or he accepts something reasonable. I'm good either way, but there should be an internal deadline of sometime during the year (before the deadline) to either have him signed or move him. With Conroy's comments so far I'm not worried about it being another Gaudreau scenario though.

Re: Sharangovich, I'll stay cautious in getting optimistic... sure maybe he has something to prove, maybe he thinks he's got a better shot/spot in our lineup than with the Devils, maybe just better utilization brings something great. Or maybe he's a middle 6er that doesn't pan out at all. Or worst case maybe he even refuses to sign as an RFA this summer and goes to Europe... We'll see.
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I'd probably hang on to Tanev until the deadline. Reason being that Kylington should be returning this season. He's been out of game action for a full year and I think it'd be valuable to have a stabilizing guy like Tanev next to him when he returns.
Tanev has way to many injury problems to hold on to him. There's a significant chance he could be untradable at the deadline
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Colton possibly to the Avs, as per Friedman.
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Tanev has way to many injury problems to hold on to him. There's a significant chance he could be untradable at the deadline
He's definitely a guy if healthy you probably think hard about holding out of your lineup a few weeks prior to the deadline.
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I hope Conny treads carefully. The Leafs traditionally haven't been a great trade partner for the Flames.
I totally agree Conny needs to tread lightly, but I never understand how "history" even plays into these things for fans. Totally agree with your sentiment on the history between Flames and Leafs trades, but for example, what influence or impact do trades conducted by:

Doug Risebrough and Cliff Fletcher
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Daryl Sutter and Brian Burke

Have on any trade made between Craig Conroy and Brad Treliving?

I think whether it's the Leafs or others, Conny needs to tread lightly with everyone, cause he's the rookie GM going against more seasoned peers.
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Colton possibly to the Avs, as per Friedman.
Feel like that's a sneaky good acquisition for the Avs (depending on the cost of course). Liked what I saw from Colton the few Lightning games I watched.
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I totally agree Conny needs to tread lightly, but I never understand how "history" even plays into these things for fans. Totally agree with your sentiment on the history between Flames and Leafs trades, but for example, what influence or impact do trades conducted by:

Doug Risebrough and Cliff Fletcher
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Daryl Sutter and Brian Burke

Have on any trade made between Craig Conroy and Brad Treliving?

I think whether it's the Leafs or others, Conny needs to tread lightly with everyone, cause he's the rookie GM going against more seasoned peers.
Which is why you have Don Maloney and Dave Nonis there.
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Which is why you have Don Maloney and Dave Nonis there.
100% agreed.
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