2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Nelson

Market for Zadorov? Did you hear/read something? I’d love to see the Flames get something for him.

There were tweets mentioning Zadorov posted earlier and Friedman also told Steinberg during the Toffoli announcement that he was hearing Zadorov's name being mentioned by a few hockey people.

[PaperBagger'14]

Losing Zadorov would actually be a gut punch. That return would have to be very sizeable for me to even consider.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

A 2nd rounder in this draft for Zad would be real nice. Would kind of make up for the underwhelming pick in the Toffoli trade.

Not sure he will be potting 14 goals again (but could be wrong).

Also wouldn't mind keeping and extending him at a reasonable cost either. He's solid as a #5 who can lay a devastating hit and score timely goals.

[NewFan]

I would keep Zadorov until trade deadline. We have a couple young Russian Ds with Wranglers, so he can help them. And we got Yegor today.
And Zadorov is only player can play big on the ice.
So keep him until trade deadline unless the return is very good.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would rather we keep Zadorov. He likes being in Calgary and he is just hitting his peak. I know the rebuild scorched Earth crowd wants to deal all the upcoming UFA's but I don't think that will happen.

I would be looking to keep Zadorov at something like Gudbranson money - I think that’ll make it easier for Sheragovich to adjust to life in Calgary to have another Russian in the fold for a few years.

Then there’s the part where he fills a necessary role - this blue line without Zadorov looks about as menacing as a boxful of kittens.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah Zadorov is the one piece I think could have more value at the deadline.

Big, physical, and mobile dmen always get a premium at the deadline and if he has a good season im not sure a 1st would be out of the question.

Tanev i would be shopping more now because it's less likely he stays healthy until the deadline

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would rather we keep Zadorov. He likes being in Calgary and he is just hitting his peak. I know the rebuild scorched Earth crowd wants to deal all the upcoming UFA's but I don't think that will happen.

I think they only trade Zadarov at this point if someone overpays or he had quietly let it be known he wants out.

[N-E-B]

Zadorov is a pending UFA next year. Conroy would not be doing his job if he was not exploring the market for him. That doesn’t mean they’re actively trying to trade him, but if the appetite is there it would be wise to take advantage of it.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Zadorov is a pending UFA next year. Conroy would not be doing his job if he was not exploring the market for him. That doesn’t mean they’re actively trying to trade him, but if the appetite is there it would be wise to take advantage of it.

Exploring the market is never a bad thing but I think Zadorov adds a lot to this team. He seemed to be one of the guys that fought to the very end and was dialed in each night. I see him as a leader in the room and possibly getting an assistant captain letter. Could be a role model for the injection of youth that is expected.

[Flames67]

IRCC when Zadorov was the first to sign last summer after Tkachuck they had explained to him that they weren’t planning on rebuilding. I’m sure both parties are revisiting that conversation.

I know it’s nuts but I really don’t think you sell Z, for all the reasons another team wants him so do we. He likes Calgary, he seems honest which I’m sure translates to the room, and I watched him start fights last year to get the team going when he is - and he knows he is - not a fighter. That’s a guy that frankly strikes me as a leader on the team.

[memphusk]

He fights, he's just not great at it. You can see him coming into his own after playing for Darryl also. He makes mistakes but look at it this way. Darnell for 9.25 forever or Nikita at 4 for 4 or 5 years? If Calgary can go out and turn Toffolus into a a guy thats Russian, young, and wants to be here you keep Z around. Maybe the team goes and gets 5 mid twenties guys that just don't have a big chance where the are right now and they blend and it turns into something special. Guys like Z will be very useful at that point.

[868904]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Yeah Zadorov is the one piece I think could have more value at the deadline.

Big, physical, and mobile dmen always get a premium at the deadline and if he has a good season im not sure a 1st would be out of the question.

Tanev i would be shopping more now because it's less likely he stays healthy until the deadline

Why do so many posters keep talking about value at the deadline?

Value at the deadline is irrelevant for the Flames, unless they are WAY out of it, this team will not be trading players away. If you don’t trade them before the season starts, you might as well just kiss the asset goodbye.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by 868904

Why do so many posters keep talking about value at the deadline?

Value at the deadline is irrelevant for the Flames, unless they are WAY out of it, this team will not be trading players away. If you don’t trade them before the season starts, you might as well just kiss the asset goodbye.

I disagree. I believe the Flames will move their most valuable pending UFA's no matter what. Maybe if Backlund and Tanev are still on the roster and the Flames were looking like contenders they may treat those guys as rentals but there is nothing that leads me to believe Conroy will let a guy like Hanifin, Lindholm, or even Zadorov walk for nothing.

[868904]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I disagree. I believe the Flames will move their most valuable pending UFA's no matter what. Maybe if Backlund and Tanev are still on the roster and the Flames were looking like contenders they may treat those guys as rentals but there is nothing that leads me to believe Conroy will let a guy like Hanifin, Lindholm, or even Zadorov walk for nothing.

If the Flames are sitting 9th at the deadline (which is the most likely scenario), do you really think they will trade Backlund or Zadorov?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by 868904

If the Flames are sitting 9th at the deadline (which is the most likely scenario), do you really think they will trade Backlund or Zadorov?

Absolutely. If the Flames are in 9th come the deadline and those guys are there I am confident Conny would trade them if the value was there. If it isn't then you use them as rentals.

[memphusk]

Risky business though also. An injury away from not being a rental or a trade chip at the deadline. 50/50 odds? I like it.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Absolutely. If the Flames are in 9th come the deadline and those guys are there I am confident Conny would trade them if the value was there. If it isn't then you use them as rentals.

Really? Confident. I would use a few words to describe what I would feel and confident wouldn't crack the top 5!

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Risky business though also. An injury away from not being a rental or a trade chip at the deadline. 50/50 odds? I like it.

I think it’s worth the risk. If the offers are garbage now. Worst case you get the same garbage at the deadline. But chances are you’re getting a better deal at the deadline.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think it’s worth the risk. If the offers are garbage now. Worst case you get the same garbage at the deadline. But chances are you’re getting a better deal at the deadline.

Yeah its just disappointing watching the team mishandle assets in a general sense. Feels fresh knowing Brodie was.most likely leaving and then was injured come trade deadline. Hamonic and his nonsense didn't help either.

[Jason14h]

Anyone remember Cammalleri and the trade deadline

But its not just maximizing the perceived return long term. The Flames obviously want to see what they have in Sharangovich and believe in him

A late first round pick is - 95% of the time - not having any impact for 3-4 years

This kid just turned 25. That means he's ready to enter his make or break years. Well know sooner then later if hes a useful part or a miss.

The fact he has the 4th most goals and 8th most points from his draft class and people consider him a bum shows the risk in drafts