[Trade] Flames trade Toffoli to NJ for RFA rights to Sharangovich and 80th OA

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Wow bad trade. Also that Toffoli quote is quite telling.
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[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Wow bad trade. Also that Toffoli quote is quite telling.
That’s my insightful contribution to this forum.

What about the quote was telling?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Did someone just compare Sharangovich to Yamamoto?

Yea that was me. Both guys have one 20 goal season in the last three years, both guys have 1 40 point season in the last three years. One guy has averaged 0.517 PPG in the last three years and one has averaged 0.508 PPG the last three years. I compared them.

[Nelson]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I thought it was Marek’s daily throw stuff at the wall and see if Friedman pumps it.

SureLoss’ thread said it was Friedman:

“Friedman speculating the Flames could go after Duclair if he is available.

Marek speculating Panthers might be interested in Hanifin and Zadorov”

[mrdonkey]

Honestly, the Yamamoto comparison doesn’t seem that far off…

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Yea that was me. Both guys have one 20 goal season in the last three years, both guys have 1 40 point season in the last three years. One guy has averaged 0.517 PPG in the last three years and one has averaged 0.508 PPG the last three years. I compared them.

How about the size and speed?

How about PK/PP Time?

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Well, no. Yamamoto also comes with that massively inflated multiyear contract, which dramatically lowers his value.

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Well Yamamoto has a one year contract for 3.1 million. Have to see what Yegor signs for. Probably less, maybe 700K less or so.

[Jiffy Loob]

he's definitely got a shot

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Toffoli sounds sad they fired Sutter because he was a Sutter guy.

Then double hurt feeling when his extension wasn't prioritized.

Sounds like he didn't really read the situation well.

I agree. Players have egos, and coming off a year where he led the team in scoring, maybe naively thought he should be prioritized more than he was.

They fired a coach he endorsed, too.

To me his response gave credence to all of this.

[Vinny01]

Not the ideal return but I don’t know much about the player we got. I would say somewhat underwhelming and not ideal for the first Conroy trade but I hope to be proven wrong.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Sharangovich put up 0.51PPG while buried in NJ.

Yamamoto has faceplanted while getting McDrai time.

That's a laughable comparison.

Then again, never expect an Oiler fan to know #### all about a player on a team that the Oilers don't play frequently.

[Heavy Jack]

Originally Posted by Sec214

How about the size and speed?

How about PK/PP Time?

To add - time with McJesus and Draisaitl versus no time with them??

It’s actually sad how little Yam has produced with the amount of time he’s spent with the wonder twins.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No, it's a terrible take that only an Oil fan would agree with. A big strong young two way sniper who excels at killing penalties vs a soft useless pile of garbage. Not comparable at all.

Big. Yup

Strong. I have no idea.

Young. Sort of.

Two way. I don't think Jersey saw him that way as his usage dropped off once he fell out of the top six. His xgf% was bottom of the pack for Jersey forwards.

Sniper. I would be hesitant to label a player with one 20+ goal season as a sniper, but maybe he will prove it.

Excellent PK. Seems like Jersey really liked him there. I wouldn't argue with that.

[All In Good Time]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Toffoli called it and the thing is its probably just the truth. Thanks but no thanks. We are moving on.

Toffoli served us well here and has returned a pick and a prospect with some apparent potential. We also need the cap space.
Unfortunately, he is 31 and looking for (and deserving) a contract of the kind that just doesnt fit with what is ahead for this team.
this is the first of a few moves (at least).
I just dont think its a terrible start at all

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Big. Yup

Strong. I have no idea.

Young. Sort of.

Two way. I don't think Jersey saw him that way as his usage dropped off once he fell out of the top six. His xgf% was bottom of the pack for Jersey forwards.

Sniper. I would be hesitant to label a player with one 20+ goal season as a sniper, but maybe he will prove it.

Excellent PK. Seems like Jersey really liked him there. I wouldn't argue with that.

Is he fast, really need to add to team speed

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Sec214

How about the size and speed?

How about PK/PP Time?

One guy averaged 37 second a game on the PP and 1:28 on the PK

Other guy got 5 seconds a game on the PP and 2 minutes a game on the PK.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Honestly, the Yamamoto comparison doesn’t seem that far off…

It’s off by about 2 feet and 100lbs.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Honestly, the Yamamoto comparison doesn’t seem that far off…

5'8" shrimp winger vs. 6'2" versatile forward.

Yeah, huge similarities.

Just have to squint until tears distort your vision.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

One guy averaged 37 second a game on the PP and 1:28 on the PK

Other guy got 5 seconds a game on the PP and 2 minutes a game on the PK.

I’m taking the big man who’s aggressive with his size and stick. Clutch around the net and a very deceptive shot. Skates well for a 6”2 200 player.

[chummer]

Would be nice if we drafted a gem at 80.