06-27-2023, 06:53 PM
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#461
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
It is amazing to me that people are discovering this just now. Conroy was perfectly clear when he was hired that he believes this is a really good team that will compete again this season.
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So we gave Conroy more credit than you did?
"The idiot was saying stupid things the whole time." I guess is supposed to be the satisfying answer to all of this.
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06-27-2023, 06:53 PM
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#462
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
The constant drum on Valji around here is extremely undeserved and distasteful. This tweet in particular is actually accurate so not sure what everyone's letting their knickers knot up about.
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He is a terrible reporter...tweeting an opinion based on numbers doesnt change that...nevermind leaving out the context of contract situations in forming said opinion.
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06-27-2023, 06:53 PM
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#463
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Originally Posted by mrdonkey
It’s ok to just call a bad trade a bad trade, guys. It’s fine. In all likelihood he’ll be one of those Nigel Dawes/Blake Comeau types of additions, and in a few years we can all forget he exists and move on.
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Or maybe nobody (including me or you) knows how the trade will work out?
He's a big guy that can skate, has a great shot, can play any forward position and just scored 24 goals 2 seasons ago.
Maybe there's some potential there, and we should see how he actually looks when he's in Calgary before calling this a bad trade?
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06-27-2023, 06:54 PM
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#464
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Franchise Player
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“It didn’t sound like there was any sort of need for me”
Toffoli gets neglected by Flames, asks for trade.
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06-27-2023, 06:54 PM
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#465
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Toss out the year two years ago when Toffoli was on pace for 44 goals 69 points. The guy is merely a 45-50 point guy if you toss out two of the last three years and heavily weigh the years from 7 years ago.
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Why would you do that? That's not analysis.
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06-27-2023, 06:54 PM
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#466
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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For those that haven't watched him play much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8SnGtMUBng
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06-27-2023, 06:54 PM
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#467
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Loves Teh Chat!
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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I thought they were disagreeing about term? Somebody's not telling the whole truth.
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06-27-2023, 06:55 PM
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#468
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Probably knows he hit his upper end for production and his stock likely falls next season, hurting his chances for a deal with term.
NJ might be foolish enough to bite.
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06-27-2023, 06:56 PM
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#469
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Lifetime Suspension
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Sounds like Toffoli was upset he wasn't the focus of the Flames offseason as it's been known they are waiting on Lindholm.
Probably realized he wasn't getting paid if Lindholm signed.
Sounds a bit like hurt feelings.
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06-27-2023, 06:56 PM
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#470
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
“It didn’t sound like there was any sort of need for me”
Toffoli gets neglected by Flames, asks for trade.
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Isn't that what we wanted? Players are people and if we treated them all like assets all the time then they are not going to be loyal to the team either.
By not trying to sign Toffoli he asksed to be traded, people are unhappy with the return and he publically bashes the team now on his way out
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06-27-2023, 06:56 PM
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#471
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Van City - Main St.
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Probably ok considering the market right now, cap space is a good thing.
But should have traded him & others at the trade deadline. Another example of a clear miss by that management.
It's funny the same posters here defending the low return were the ones saying not to make trades at the deadline because the market would be better in the off season.
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06-27-2023, 06:57 PM
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#472
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Or maybe nobody (including me or you) knows how the trade will work out?
He's a big guy that can skate, has a great shot, can play any forward position and just scored 24 goals 2 seasons ago.
Maybe there's some potential there, and we should see how he actually looks when he's in Calgary before calling this a bad trade?
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I dont have any issues with Sharangovich the player, I'm just more than a little underwhelmed at the return for our top Goal Scorer.
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06-27-2023, 06:57 PM
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#473
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Avalanche got more for a cusp of busting newhook than we did for a near ppg player on a 4 mill contract.
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06-27-2023, 06:57 PM
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#474
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Sounds like Toffoli was upset he wasn't the focus of the Flames offseason as it's been known they are waiting on Lindholm.
Probably realized he wasn't getting paid if Lindholm signed.
Sounds a bit like hurt feelings.
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True. I also wonder how much Lucic moving on affected Toffoli as well. No Sutter, no Lucic, no big contract offer. Maybe he just felt like it was time to go.
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06-27-2023, 06:58 PM
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#475
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Monahammer
The constant drum on Valji around here is extremely undeserved and distasteful. This tweet in particular is actually accurate so not sure what everyone's letting their knickers knot up about.
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He's basically another Francis, probably worse. Just finds the worst, laziest, low-brow, click-baity takes. I can't take him seriously at all. Calgary needs less media like him, not more.
I thought maybe he just had beef with Sutter because Sutter didn't put up with his dumb questions but it's clearly deeper than that. His bias is showing and it's pretty unprofessional.
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06-27-2023, 06:59 PM
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#476
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Sounds like Toffoli was upset he wasn't the focus of the Flames offseason as it's been known they are waiting on Lindholm.
Probably realized he wasn't getting paid if Lindholm signed.
Sounds a bit like hurt feelings.
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To be fair, everything kind of hinges on your 1C re-upping. Not sure he has grounds to be too upset. Any other team would have him a couple rungs down their order of priorities too.
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06-27-2023, 07:00 PM
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#477
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Originally Posted by dino7c
Yeah they obviously turned them down
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Maybe they did? Isn't it obvious the Flames are still competitive? I mean Conroy said so.
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06-27-2023, 07:00 PM
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#478
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Or maybe nobody (including me or you) knows how the trade will work out?
He's a big guy that can skate, has a great shot, can play any forward position and just scored 24 goals 2 seasons ago.
Maybe there's some potential there, and we should see how he actually looks when he's in Calgary before calling this a bad trade?
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I’m ok with this, though ideally you pick up diamonds in the rough for cheap. It sounds like his speed will help if they want to play an uptempo game next season
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06-27-2023, 07:00 PM
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#479
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Friedman said about as much on 960 tonight. Everyone is ranked. Some higher than others. Some lower. Lindholm & Hanifin were the priorities. Sorry Tof.
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06-27-2023, 07:01 PM
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#480
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Maybe it is a tear down after all. They got a third and an asset they can flip next year.
Say this Shaggy guy gets a 1yr deal and gets 35 goals. Then next off-season, when the cap jumps they can do a sign a trade on him at age 26 and get real assets.
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