[Rumour] Chris Johnston: Lindholm is interested in staying

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Fixed your post a couple of times.

They need a goalie, that's it.

...and depth. And something beyond 2 players and the PP. And can the best of those 2 players keep his regular season style game up in the playoffs, got outplayed by the guy who got drafted right after him. And they've only got 3 years left to do it because they've wasted 8 years already. That's it.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by getbak

No, that has changed. As long as the player has a contract for the upcoming season, he can sign an 8-year extension with any team who holds his rights.

Did it used to be that the trade deadline was a key date? I remember the Oilers wanting to acquire Hymans rights to add a meaningless 8th year to get his AAV down, but because he wasn't an Oiler at the deadline they could not sign him for 8 years.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

...and depth. And something beyond 2 players and the PP. And can the best of those 2 players keep his regular season style game up in the playoffs, got outplayed by the guy who got drafted right after him. And they've only got 3 years left to do it because they've wasted 8 years already. That's it.

Their top 5 forwards are better than Calgary by a wide margin and second best in the Pacific, and likely the Western Conference (depending on Landeskog's health).

Vegas didn't beat them by depth. Marchessault isn't a depth forward. Oil has a better goalie and they win that series.

Fix the goaltending and Edmonton's biggest problem is the Nurse contract. That's a pretty good problem to have sitting here in Calgary. We fkd.

[Enoch Root]

1) some of you don't have a clue how to negotiate, and how to use the media in negotiations

2) the Oilers are a goalie short of being the envy of the league? HAHAHAHA, it must be summer!

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Yes, he’s not a guy who can count on GMs saying “look at his career numbers”. He’s not a high profile guy, despite being better than some guys with more name recognition for whatever reason (Horvat for example).

If he goes say, 60-65 points again, no way he makes what the Flames are offering him now.

Precisely why I think offering him $9M is crazy talk. 60-65 pts could very well be what the future has in store for Lindy.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Their top 5 forwards are better than Calgary by a wide margin and second best in the Pacific, and likely the Western Conference (depending on Landeskog's health).

Vegas didn't beat them by depth. Marchessault isn't a depth forward. Oil has a better goalie and they win that series.

Fix the goaltending and Edmonton's biggest problem is the Nurse contract. That's a pretty good problem to have sitting here in Calgary. We fkd.

This seems to be in direct comparison to the Flames and I'm not sure why...Grease have arguably the most talented (regular season) player since Lemieux and in his prime and another top 10 player, and their main concern is how they stack up vs their currently free-falling arch-rivals? Imagine if in Lemieux/Jagr & Crosby/Malkin's primes, their main concern was being better than the Flyers.

After watching them lose a tough 7 game series to Ducks in 2017 in Connor's 2nd year, I never would've guessed they'd still be stuck in this same spot going into 7 years later with a talent like that, it's stunning really. And now time's almost up on the McWindow with no Cups or even Finals to show for it, and there's still holes on the roster.

But I know that won't stop Greaser fans from being overconfident as usual, yep they're right there, just stay the course. Tick tick tick...

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Their top 5 forwards are better than Calgary by a wide margin and second best in the Pacific, and likely the Western Conference (depending on Landeskog's health).

Vegas didn't beat them by depth. Marchessault isn't a depth forward. Oil has a better goalie and they win that series.

Fix the goaltending and Edmonton's biggest problem is the Nurse contract. That's a pretty good problem to have sitting here in Calgary. We fkd.

Do we really have to put up with this crap? Oh, wait...I have a piece of swampland that is just *perfect* for condos....wanna buy it?

Delusional. Your team couldn't have beaten Vegas (but it was the CLOSEST LOSS EVER!) with an extra McDoodlehead.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Sainters7

After watching them lose a tough 7 game series to Ducks in 2017 in Connor's 2nd year, I never would've guessed they'd still be stuck in this same spot going into 7 years later with a talent like that, it's stunning really. And now time's almost up on the McWindow with no Cups or even Finals to show for it, and there's still holes on the roster.

That same spot is no goalie.

Christ, they even signed our goalie who we thought was going to beat them and he beat us!!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

It's pretty obvious to any hockey fan that saw any Oilers games on TV this past season that the team only goes as far as McDavid and Draisaitl go, as well as the PP (they go hand in hand). The PP was historically good and the two wonder twins lit it up while staying healthy and they still can't win it all. If you think they're just a goalie away from winning it all, then I can respect the crazy amount of optimism.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

Their top 5 forwards are better than Calgary by a wide margin and second best in the Pacific, and likely the Western Conference (depending on Landeskog's health).

Vegas didn't beat them by depth. Marchessault isn't a depth forward. Oil has a better goalie and they win that series.

Fix the goaltending and Edmonton's biggest problem is the Nurse contract. That's a pretty good problem to have sitting here in Calgary. We fkd.

Hard to disagree. Simple fix

Trade Campbell to somebody and package your 2024 1st and your 2025 1st with him and lose that contract. That would leave them 10 million bucks to sign an elite goalie, Bouchard and 5 forwards to round out the roster with Nurse on it. Probably have to trade for a goalie though because there are no good UFA goalies this year. Maybe package Hyman and a 2026 first for an elite goalie. Pretty simple problem to solve. Then you probably have to move Kane to sign Bouchard. Simple solution.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

1) some of you don't have a clue how to negotiate, and how to use the media in negotiations

2) the Oilers are a goalie short of being the envy of the league? HAHAHAHA, it must be summer!

Oilers lost because they were schooled at 5 on 5 production. How does a goalie help with that?

And yeah, if they could play remotely good 5 on 5 they'd stand a chance even with Skinner playing like Markstrom.

I really hope they believe that's all they need and do some Olympian cap gymnastics to get one. That would be fantastic because they'll just lose again and waste another year of McDavid.

It also wont matter much who the goalie is They hang their goalies out to dry. I mean, did you see the coverage on those Vegas goals?

If a guy like Hellebuyck can't buoy a responsible Jets team more than a round then he wouldn't do that for the river hockey boys either.

Oilers think they're closer than they are.. A tale as old as time.

[midniteowl]

This is hilarious, after 3 failed playoffs, include 2 swept and they still think they are just a goalie away from winning it all?

[bluejays]

Something about the whole Lindholm situation seems off, and I suspect given everything we know, the media is being used a bit here. Earlier it was reported Lindholm wants to be on a competitive Flames team for him to sign an extension. We're now understanding he's twiddling his thumbs unsure if he should sign, when we know the situation has changed and a few guys are on their way out. So what's the story?

I'm guessing the following - he won't sign an extension with a team like the Sabres (because it's Buffalo and he doesn't have to, and they don't need him).

So the Flames are probably working something out with Carolina or others while he pretends to be twiddling, with an understanding from the Flames that he'll sign an extension with a team he prefers, while the Flames work out a deal with one of those teams (or those teams up their offer). The answer seems too clear for both sides that a separation is in order. The only thing I can think of is a mutual respect for where they both are and they're silently trying to help each other out. Just my guess.

Anything else just does not make sense. The Flames surely can't wait around for his decision. He's not a franchise player. They're not dumb.

[GioforPM]

Wait, didn’t the goalie for the team that supposedly only needs a goalie to be good just get second place for the Calder?

[dammage79]

Time to send Lindholm packing. If the reports are true, the Flames have upped their offer from two weeks ago and he's still humming and hawing.


I'm dead serious, Lindholm has been my favorite Flame since day #1 that he got to CGY. But I think the apprehension is signal enough even for me to say, so long and thanks for all the fish.

[Ferarri]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Time to send Lindholm packing. If the reports are true, the Flames have upped their offer from two weeks ago and he's still humming and hawing.


I'm dead serious, Lindholm has been my favorite Flame since day #1 that he got to CGY. But I think the apprehension is signal enough even for me to say, so long and thanks for all the fish.

Don’t disagree at all but part of this is the players agent influence. They know how to play the game and trying to squeeze as much out as possible. With the clock ticking and Calgary’s apparent desire to sign this player then they are in the drivers seat. Personally I want the Flames to move on and start the re-build but if he’s a key priority for them then this is a strategic play by the Lindholm camp (if he is indeed committed and wanting to be a Flame).

If some earlier reports are true that the Flames are willing to push this to August or September than that’s where I get really concerned about the direction of this team and what they are doing behind the scenes.

[Username: Flames]

Originally Posted by nik-

I know this is a dig at the Oilers, but it could basically be about us too.

Except for the city, they definitely have a ####tier town.

Not that much ####tier. Calgary is okay, but it's not as amazing as some people say. It's better than Edmonton, Regina, Winnipeg, and in some ways is better than Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver (smaller city, so less homelessness, less traffic, ect) but I really don't think Calgary is leaps and bounds better than Edmonton.

We're slightly better because we have mountains...

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Username: Flames

Not that much ####tier. Calgary is okay, but it's not as amazing as some people say. It's better than Edmonton, Regina, Winnipeg, and in some ways is better than Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver (smaller city, so less homelessness, less traffic, ect) but I really don't think Calgary is leaps and bounds better than Edmonton.

We're slightly better because we have mountains...

Oh sweet summer child..

There are many more factors than just mountains.

Also that proximity counts for a lot since it allows for a completely different lifestyle than you could realistically have in Edmonton being 5 hours out.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

This is hilarious, after 3 failed playoffs, include 2 swept and they still think they are just a goalie away from winning it all?

It's always *just* one thing. Next year it'll be a different thing, but with 10x the pressure because Leon will have one foot out the door.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

It's always *just* one thing. Next year it'll be a different thing, but with 10x the pressure because Leon will have one foot out the door.

It's really funny, remember so many saying Oilers going to "walk" to the SC final? Reality hit that they regressed from the year before which the year before they were in WCF and this year they got knocked out in the second round. So, IF they make it to the playoff next year, they'll get knocked out in the first round, probably a swept to boot.