06-26-2023, 06:34 PM
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#641
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: May 2021
Location: Airdrie AB
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Originally Posted by Boreal
Or we could be a pathetically flawed franchise for the better part of 3 decades constantly looking for a shortcut.
Then, when we actually get one, maybe two shortcuts, we squander them because of an inability to manage a budget, competently develop prospect resources, and avoid listening to a fanbase in a dumpster of a city who literally have nothing to do besides follow that same pathetically flawed franchise.
I mean, nothing to do besides broadcasting their insecurities on other franchises message boards.
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Pathetically flawed is one thing, you might be onto something there… but to be a team owned over history to that same pathetically flawed team, is much worse. 5 rings to 1, 5 BoA’s to 1. When’s the last time you made it past round 1 besides that time McDavid scored in OT? 2004? You guys don’t have anything to say with regards to how bad the oilers have been. Now you’re looking at a rebuild and still crow about how bad the oilers are? Amazing.
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06-26-2023, 06:35 PM
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#642
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Sec214
Calgary made a very FAIR offer to Elias.
Teams want to know if he's available before 7PM EST Wednesday June 28th. Just because Calgary isn't "actively engaged" in trade talks, doesn't mean that teams haven't exchanged business cards.
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Thank you for some sanity here.
Most of the comments are WAY over the top...whichever way they lean.
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06-26-2023, 06:51 PM
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#643
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I seriously doubt it. How would that even work?
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Not sure why this can't be done.
Iron out a trade assuming an extension. Allow other team to talk contract and agree verbally. Make the trade. New team formalizes and signs the contract after July 1. Since new team has his rights at that point, they would be allowed to sign him for 8 years at that point, right?
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06-26-2023, 06:53 PM
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#644
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
There is risk on Lindholm's part. If the Flames don't trade him and he has a subpar year he loses leverage to get a big payday this time next year.
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The draft may not be the ultimate deadline for the Flames, but once the draft passes, power shifts back in their direction.
Any time before camp, Lindholm can go to a new situation and get his 8x$8.5 in a sign and trade.
Once camp starts, all that risk goes back to the player, for both injury and performance.
I don’t see this lingering past the draft - too much smoke around it already for things to be left to burn.
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06-26-2023, 06:56 PM
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#645
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I seriously doubt it. How would that even work?
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In the same way that Staal and Dahlin have completed contracts. Iron out the extension with the agent. It will be signed July 1st. The acquiring team has a small level of risk but not sure why a player would agree to terms and then not sign.
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06-26-2023, 06:57 PM
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#646
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
Not sure why this can't be done.
Iron out a trade assuming an extension. Allow other team to talk contract and agree verbally. Make the trade. New team formalizes and signs the contract after July 1. Since new team has his rights at that point, they would be allowed to sign him for 8 years at that point, right?
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I am pretty sure Lindholm has to be on the roster for the year before he can sign an 8-year deal.
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06-26-2023, 06:57 PM
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#647
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Lifetime Suspension
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Backlund 6th and Lindholm 10th in selke voting.
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06-26-2023, 07:00 PM
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#648
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by Rising_Oil_Prices
Pathetically flawed is one thing, you might be onto something there… but to be a team owned over history to that same pathetically flawed team, is much worse. 5 rings to 1, 5 BoA’s to 1. When’s the last time you made it past round 1 besides that time McDavid scored in OT? 2004? You guys don’t have anything to say with regards to how bad the oilers have been. Now you’re looking at a rebuild and still crow about how bad the oilers are? Amazing.
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Seriously there fella what are you doing here? You come in and crap on your arch rival and someone calls you out and now you come back with the 5 cups from 30+ years ago? Go back to your circle jerk with the sweatpants crew and enjoy the next couple years before your team heads back to the bottom once McDrai leave for greener pastures.
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06-26-2023, 07:02 PM
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#649
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I am pretty sure Lindholm has to be on the roster for the year before he can sign an 8-year deal.
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No, that has changed. As long as the player has a contract for the upcoming season, he can sign an 8-year extension with any team who holds his rights.
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06-26-2023, 07:03 PM
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#650
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Rising_Oil_Prices
Pathetically flawed is one thing, you might be onto something there… but to be a team owned over history to that same pathetically flawed team, is much worse. 5 rings to 1, 5 BoA’s to 1. When’s the last time you made it past round 1 besides that time McDavid scored in OT? 2004? You guys don’t have anything to say with regards to how bad the oilers have been. Now you’re looking at a rebuild and still crow about how bad the oilers are? Amazing.
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Amazing me that Oilers fans still think they aren’t he absolute laughing stock of the league
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06-26-2023, 07:03 PM
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#651
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
I am pretty sure Lindholm has to be on the roster for the year before he can sign an 8-year deal.
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Deadline. Just like Horvat in the season.
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06-26-2023, 07:06 PM
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#652
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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Originally Posted by Rising_Oil_Prices
Pathetically flawed is one thing, you might be onto something there… but to be a team owned over history to that same pathetically flawed team, is much worse. 5 rings to 1, 5 BoA’s to 1. When’s the last time you made it past round 1 besides that time McDavid scored in OT? 2004? You guys don’t have anything to say with regards to how bad the oilers have been. Now you’re looking at a rebuild and still crow about how bad the oilers are? Amazing.
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A well deserved Lifetime Suspension
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06-26-2023, 07:07 PM
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#653
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Seattle, WA/Scottsdale, AZ
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
Amazing me that Oilers fans still think they aren’t the envy of the league
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Fixed your post a couple of times.
They need a goalie, that's it.
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06-26-2023, 07:10 PM
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#654
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by DoubleK
Fixed your post a couple of times.
They need a goalie, that's it.
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LOL.
After the wonder twins the entire team is utter trash.
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06-26-2023, 07:12 PM
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#655
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
LOL.
After the wonder twins the entire team is utter trash.
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They also can't play 5 on 5.
Closet Oiler fans coming out.
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06-26-2023, 07:21 PM
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#656
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
LOL.
After the wonder twins the entire team is utter trash.
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INCLUDING the Wonder Twins (aka Diving Divas) the entire team is utter trash.
E=NG now, forever and always.
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06-26-2023, 07:23 PM
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#657
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
There is risk on Lindholm's part. If the Flames don't trade him and he has a subpar year he loses leverage to get a big payday this time next year.
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Yes, he’s not a guy who can count on GMs saying “look at his career numbers”. He’s not a high profile guy, despite being better than some guys with more name recognition for whatever reason (Horvat for example).
If he goes say, 60-65 points again, no way he makes what the Flames are offering him now.
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06-26-2023, 07:24 PM
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#658
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
No, that has changed. As long as the player has a contract for the upcoming season, he can sign an 8-year extension with any team who holds his rights.
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Yes, that’s what I thought which made all the “sign and trade before July 1” talk seem strange to me.
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06-26-2023, 07:26 PM
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#659
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dustygoon
Not sure why this can't be done.
Iron out a trade assuming an extension. Allow other team to talk contract and agree verbally. Make the trade. New team formalizes and signs the contract after July 1. Since new team has his rights at that point, they would be allowed to sign him for 8 years at that point, right?
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Pretty much the Stone trade except that was mid season.
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06-26-2023, 07:26 PM
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#660
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boreal
Or we could be a pathetically flawed franchise for the better part of 3 decades constantly looking for a shortcut.
Then, when we actually get one, maybe two shortcuts, we squander them because of an inability to manage a budget, competently develop prospect resources, and avoid listening to a fanbase in a dumpster of a city who literally have nothing to do besides follow that same pathetically flawed franchise.
I mean, nothing to do besides broadcasting their insecurities on other franchises message boards.
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I know this is a dig at the Oilers, but it could basically be about us too.
Except for the city, they definitely have a ####tier town.
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