This is wild. There aren't minuses to having summers off...particularly in Canada where so many vacation spots and activities are seasonal. How many campgrounds open for May Long and close after September Long, as an example? Half the year roads aren't even at their safest for travel. Kids are off during the summer (for families), so nothing could be more convenient. What time of year can you enjoy your yard, paint your house, build your fence, go bike riding in Fish Creek, etc. etc.?
And then in winter...who doesn't want a couple weeks off around Christmas to spend time with loved ones?
To say their time off doesn't coincide with the best times of year for vacation days is, honestly, super dumb.
LOL
Surprised it took this long for the most clueless poster when it comes to teaching chimed in.
Again this is from experience so yes there are minuses, which I have already pointed out. But as usual with you you can't see anything other than 100% what you want. It isn't 100% awesome or 100% awful there are plus and minuses and it is silly to ignore that.
Surprised it took this long for the most clueless poster when it comes to teaching chimed in.
Again this is from experience so yes there are minuses, which I have already pointed out. But as usual with you you can't see anything other than 100% what you want. It isn't 100% awesome or 100% awful there are plus and minuses and it is silly to ignore that.
Sorry, who are you? I've honestly never once heard of you and I see you joined in April 2023. I don't think I've even uttered the word "teacher" in the last two months so WTF are you talking about?
Sorry, who are you? I've honestly never once heard of you and I see you joined in April 2023. I don't think I've even uttered the word "teacher" in the last two months so WTF are you talking about?
Again why do people want to pretend that this is some sort of closed community only available to read by people who are members?
I have read the site for years before wanting to join. I have said it before my lack of connection to the team was a major reason I recently signed up rather than just browse. There are many people who read the site without joining.
Again why do people want to pretend that this is some sort of closed community only available to read by people who are members?
I have read the site for years before wanting to join. I have said it before my lack of connection to the team was a major reason I recently signed up rather than just browse. There are many people who read the site without joining.
Okay, that's fair. Sorry, you just came out flapping around with guns blazing as though we have a history when, in fact, this is the first day I've ever seen you.
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Okay, that's fair. Sorry, you just came out flapping around with guns blazing as though we have a history when, in fact, this is the first day I've ever seen you.
I don't think you can deny that you have been pretty strong with your opinions on teaching on this site.
I don't think you can deny that you have been pretty strong with your opinions on teaching on this site.
Meh, my position has been misunderstood. Just look at Cliff posting basic facts and getting jumped on by rubecube a couple pages back. When I make a claim about teachers, I always back it up with evidence from the ATA or the CBE site. Still makes people mad, but that's out of my hands.
Okay, that's fair. Sorry, you just came out flapping around with guns blazing as though we have a history when, in fact, this is the first day I've ever seen you.
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I get why people get envious about 2 months off at summer, but can we stop with the "2 weeks off over Christmas holidays" part? I worked in a downtown office for years, seemingly the entire office takes off at least a week if not 2 weeks over that same period. Office buildings are a ghost town over the holidays, this is far from being an exclusively teacher thing...
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I've been silent in this thread as I'm not in the mood for being the poster boy for pointing out that being a teacher is a terrific career (for whatever reason teachers want us to think they have it rough, which I believe is their union trying to incite them, but whatever), but nobody should be humouring this ridiculous notion that teachers don't have absolutely outstanding holiday benefits. They run the same schedule seven-year-olds run FFS.
What makes you believe that teachers complain about their work more than the average person complains about their work. I don’t think I have ever seen a work related gear grinder posted by a teacher.
If anything it’s us as the public who complain about teachers because it’s the most frequent interaction we have with a public employee. So I think it’s understandable if teachers get defensive about their pay and hours of work because people like myself are very quick to opine on how we think things should work.
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Don't forget that teachers can, if they want, get a summer job.
I have some teacher friends that work through the summer at a different job, and some that don't.
My one buddy took on a construction job last summer and made $40,000 in his summer.
Not arguing, but that isn't exactly the norm either... Like, either your buddy has an exceptional skill, is exceptionally lucky, or exceptionally exaggerating.
We don't need to pretend summer construction jobs pay $20k per month to make the point that teachers have an admirable work schedule.
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What makes you believe that teachers complain about their work more than the average person complains about their work. I don’t think I have ever seen a work related gear grinder posted by a teacher.
If anything it’s us as the public who complain about teachers because it’s the most frequent interaction we have with a public employee. So I think it’s understandable if teachers get defensive about their pay and hours of work because people like myself are very quick to opine on how we think things should work.
It's not people "saying how things should work" vs. just offering opinions. They can be fallible, but they're opinions and probably based in some kind of reality so not entirely without merit.
Firefighters and Police are the two that I have seen having far more lucrative "side hustles" compared to teachers.
Firefighters also work 24 hour shifts, which is a crazy sweet deal imo. Not many careers where part of the paid time involves "sleep" or "go get groceries for us to eat while we're working".
Point is there are all sorts of puts and takes with every career.
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Kind of beside myself with a few arguing about the benefit of having summers off because that is high season for traveling.
So why does everyone else travel in the summer? Oh yeah, it's because that is when their kids are off school. Be happy you have about about three months window to travel vs. the 2 or 3 weeks many working class families have.
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I get why people get envious about 2 months off at summer, but can we stop with the "2 weeks off over Christmas holidays" part? I worked in a downtown office for years, seemingly the entire office takes off at least a week if not 2 weeks over that same period. Office buildings are a ghost town over the holidays, this is far from being an exclusively teacher thing...
Lots (if not most) of those people are burning vacation time or taking unpaid leave. Maybe some of the major O&G companies offer paid time off during this break in addition to vacation, but not the service providers or EPC's.
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Not arguing, but that isn't exactly the norm either... Like, either your buddy has an exceptional skill, is exceptionally lucky, or exceptionally exaggerating.
We don't need to pretend summer construction jobs pay $20k per month to make the point that teachers have an admirable work schedule.
It isn't exaggerated and yes he was exceptionally lucky to land that job.
But if he wasn't a teach he wouldn't have had the extra 6-7 weeks needed to do the job.
I wasn't pretending that type of pay is the norm, but thanks.
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