2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Eat bread at his current cap hit following his most recent season probably doesn't have much value on the market.

Still young enough to be part of things if he figures his #### out.

I could see him being one of the guys that suffered a bit under Sutter last year.

But, with Lindholm, Backlund, and Toffolli potentially gone, Mang might be playing quite a bit higher in the lineup. Could have a much stronger year.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Good guesses, lol. Dahlia, Sienna and Hudson.

Sweet, got Hudson! Great name!

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I'm sure Hanifin would be really pumped to play for Boston. Their 1st would be very late though, so not ideal. However, I could see their 1st in 2024 or 2025 being pretty good....

I have no idea how they fit in the cap though, even if Calgary retains.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I'll take Jack Quinn + 1st. Please and thank you.

Eh, as a Sabres fan I wouldn't be thrilled with this, one or the other + something smaller. Retaining salary doesn't sweeten anything for us either, we've got lots of cap space for this upcoming season.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

DET 2023 1st (17 OA)
Berggren
Wallinder

That’s a pretty appealing package.

Juicy. Although from Yzerman's comments, it might be tough:

“When we have all these draft picks, what I’m trying to do is build a nucleus of young players that’s going to be the core of the team for a significant period of time or for the future. If we give up those pieces – and these draft picks, there’s no guarantee they’re going to turn into that – we have to feel the player we’re acquiring is going to be a part of that core for a long period time. It doesn’t make sense to give up pieces that we need to build a core, and in 3-4 years that player has retired or moved on and we still don’t have that core in place.

https://www.nbcsportsbayarea.com/nhl...-fits/1636394/

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I'm sure Hanifin would be really pumped to play for Boston. Their 1st would be very late though, so not ideal. However, I could see their 1st in 2024 or 2025 being pretty good....

They might not have the cap space for what he wants. I also would imagine their prospect pool sucks without looking lol. I think Boston makes more sense if the Flames go the re-tool route. Carlo/Debrusk etc

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Murph

Tyler Toffoli, come on down.

Too old, only one that is remotely close to their age range is Andrew Mangiapane and even then I don't think Calgary wants to move the little dog. But if we do praise scorch - it would make sense to move him.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Mine are named after a witch, an actress and a character from Aliens. Gotta have some fun with it.

How are little Bellatrix, Uma and Burke anyway?

[Jiffy Loob]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Too old, only one that is remotely close to their age range is Andrew Mangiapane and even then I don't think Calgary wants to move the little dog. But if we do praise scorch - it would make sense to move him.

thank goodness! love this player.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Eh, as a Sabres fan I wouldn't be thrilled with this, one or the other + something smaller. Retaining salary doesn't sweeten anything for us either, we've got lots of cap space for this upcoming season.

I am little surprised you'd be happy with Jack Quinn at all to be honest.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Backlund and Brodie were both RFAs when they signed their last contracts with the Flames.

Wasn’t Backlund 30 when he signed his last deal?

[ForeverFlameFan]

Do any of you think Conroy will wait and see who is available at the draft before pulling the trigger on any deal involving a 1st?

I only ask because of the weak UFA market. If he isn't thinking he will get max value for a player, he most certainly would if a team missed out on a coveted UFA.

Could also see him making a deal to grab an additional 2nd or two if he feels that a lot of the prospects the scouts have on the board are still there past Wednesday night.

[dino7c]

I think the main thing the Flames have learned is no more "mr. Nice guy" to players

Don't want to sign this more than fair contract offer considering you haven't got it done? Fine, see ya

[the-rasta-masta]

Somebody may have mentioned this elsewhere, but is it actually possible for the Flames to get a trade done that includes a 2023 1st round pick before draft date for any players where an 8 year extension and sign and trade is in play. I don't believe the extension can actually be signed up the final year of the deal starts (i.e after July 1st.).

Would this have to be the Flames directing another team which player to take with their pick, and we wouldn't find out about it until July?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by dino7c

I think the main thing the Flames have learned is no more "mr. Nice guy" to players

Don't want to sign this more than fair contract offer considering you haven't got it done? Fine, see ya

let's hope so. Gotta be strictly business now.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Do any of you think Conroy will wait and see who is available at the draft before pulling the trigger on any deal involving a 1st?

I only ask because of the weak UFA market. If he isn't thinking he will get max value for a player, he most certainly would if a team missed out on a coveted UFA.

Could also see him making a deal to grab an additional 2nd or two if he feels that a lot of the prospects the scouts have on the board are still there past Wednesday night.

Depends. I'd say that would depend more on the acquiring team wanting to see if a player they like is available. If you have a deal you like and get cute with it then it could disappear.

[Funkhouser]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Noah update - Buffalo is pushing. Not the preferred spot but they could offer the best $. Other teams that have called are Boston, Washington, Carolina, Florida and a handful of Canadian markets, unlikely but I believe Treliving will try....

Buffalo has so many amazing fwd prospects, in addition to some late-round gems. Would love to trade with them.

2023 1st
Kulich
Savoie
Quinn
Peterka
Krebs

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Somebody may have mentioned this elsewhere, but is it actually possible for the Flames to get a trade done that includes a 2023 1st round pick before draft date for any players where an 8 year extension and sign and trade is in play. I don't believe the extension can actually be signed up the final year of the deal starts (i.e after July 1st.).

Would this have to be the Flames directing another team which player to take with their pick, and we wouldn't find out about it until July?

Example would just be

Flames Acquire:
1st Rounder
X
X

Team X Acquires:
Elias Lindholm agrees to a 10.5x8 contract signed July 1.

Deal can still take place and players/agents wont pull fast ones on clubs.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Eat bread at his current cap hit following his most recent season probably doesn't have much value on the market.

Still young enough to be part of things if he figures his #### out.

I could see him being one of the guys that suffered a bit under Sutter last year.

This team need to inflate Mangiapane's stats with PP time before they even think about moving him.

Over the last three seasons Mangiapane's 53 goals at 5v5 ranks him 21st in the NHL (tied with Guentzel, McCann, Keller, Meier)

And his 98 points at 5v5 rank him 59th.

So that is top line goal and point produciton at 5v5.

But he has only 12 PP goals (119th) , and 20 PP points (216th) in that time.

Last player I'd be moving this offseason since I think it could really be selling low.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by the-rasta-masta

Somebody may have mentioned this elsewhere, but is it actually possible for the Flames to get a trade done that includes a 2023 1st round pick before draft date for any players where an 8 year extension and sign and trade is in play. I don't believe the extension can actually be signed up the final year of the deal starts (i.e after July 1st.).

Would this have to be the Flames directing another team which player to take with their pick, and we wouldn't find out about it until July?

It would just take a tiny bit of faith in the player not doing something stupid between the draft and July 1st. I think the risk in minimal to the acquiring team though. They will have the contract in the drawer ready to go.
They'd have to wait till July 1st if other GMs will not give up a pick until the player can be signed because conditional draft picks based on signing are no longer allowed.