2023/2024 Trade Rumors and Speculation Thread

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Burn it down? ####ing finally.

Except you know these clowns will find a way to screw it up.

[Beninho]

Horvat produced on some garbage Canucks team and drives play. Lindholm had a chance to show this last season but was invisible in many games. He is a solid all around C but firmly a complimentary piece on offence. I like the player but I am glad the Flames are not caving to that demand. Would be nice to retain him but if not he will garner a ton of interest.

[Naitix]

Hanifin can only be signed after July 1st right? So if a team wants to trade and sign then it would have to be after the draft

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Except you know these clowns will find a way to screw it up.

[Jiggy_12]

Great to hear Zadorov is getting some attention.

He absolutley should get a good return. How rare are guys like him. His size, physicality and kind of a mean jerk on the ice. Scores goals. Honestly should fetch more than a 2nd rounder IMO. 2nd and 3rd would be about right

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Ya, the players are jumping ship narrative is garbage.

I mentioned on a earlier post somewhere about Conroy having his phone on all week. I expect coming in he had open and honest dialogue with the players and said “Let’s cut the bull####” and a lot of the guys believed and trusted him thus resulting in players being “Honest”.

Many of the brass are “appreciative” of the players in this situation.

The mass exodus is click bait.

Organization is just being honest about the status of the ship.

These successful former player guys can relate better to the players than the Boston pizza BOG.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Naitix

Hanifin can only be signed after July 1st right? So if a team wants to trade and sign then it would have to be after the draft

Much like the Flames and Lindholm, there’s be conversations/agreements possibly ahead of that.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I mentioned on a earlier post somewhere about Conroy having his phone on all week. I expect coming in he had open and honest dialogue with the players and said “Let’s cut the bull####” and a lot of the guys believed and trusted him thus resulting in players being “Honest”.

Many of the brass are “appreciative” of the players in this situation.

The mass exodus is click bait.

Organization is just being honest about the status of the ship.

These successful former player guys can relate better to the players than the Boston pizza BOG.

Frank and Steinberg even discussed this on Friday.

There’s no negative emotions involved in any of this. Flames are being proactive, and by the sounds of it honest with players, and players are being honest with their intentions in response. None of this is bad.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Frank and Steinberg even discussed this on Friday.

There’s no negative emotions involved in any of this. Flames are being proactive, and by the sounds of it honest with players, and players are being honest with their intentions in response. None of this is bad.

Don’t listen to the radio but I’m glad to hear this Tidbit of information is being spoken about since it came from the same water cooler as the blind shot HC hire. I’ve been hesitant to report his information.

[Beninho]

Just like Tkachuk I respect Hanifin for giving the Flames the best opportunity on return with a sign and trade. That’s called professionalism, unlike whatever Johnny and his goof agent pulled. You make a decision and allow the team to prepare to move on.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by DionTheDman

I think it means that Olli Jokinen is coming in as the new Super President of Hockey Ops and is cleaning house of everybody.

Have we forgotten this guy already?

NSFW!

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Just like Tkachuk I respect Hanifin for giving the Flames the best opportunity on return with a sign and trade. That’s called professionalism, unlike whatever Johnny and his goof agent pulled. You make a decision and allow the team to prepare to move on.

Johnny wanted a big ol bag of money, just didn’t want the pressure to carry it here.

I suspect Flames told Pat Brisson what they want in return and he’s brokering most of this deal because of the required extension. This is super common these days.

[sch19lks]

Originally Posted by Sec214

Don’t listen to the radio but I’m glad to hear this Tidbit of information is being spoken about since it came from the same water cooler as the blind shot HC hire. I’ve been hesitant to report his information.

Are you able to expand on “blind shot HC hire”? I’m not sure how to interpret that

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by sch19lks

Are you able to expand on “blind shot HC hire”? I’m not sure how to interpret that

Absolutely, We found out the coaching hire was done. Had 6 names st the time and was told to “trust” and I ran it out to the CP Family. It was Done alright just not the right people.

Way she goes but this person has been right far more then wrong.

[bluejays]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I mentioned on a earlier post somewhere about Conroy having his phone on all week. I expect coming in he had open and honest dialogue with the players and said “Let’s cut the bull####” and a lot of the guys believed and trusted him thus resulting in players being “Honest”.

Many of the brass are “appreciative” of the players in this situation.

The mass exodus is click bait.

Organization is just being honest about the status of the ship.

These successful former player guys can relate better to the players than the Boston pizza BOG.

Just curious what Bean and ownerships perspective is on a rebuild? Hearing Friedman talk about Duclair as a return for Hanifin seems like ownership kyboshing a rebuild.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Just curious what Bean and ownerships perspective is on a rebuild? Hearing Friedman talk about Duclair as a return for Hanifin seems like ownership kyboshing a rebuild.

I think the ownership angle is over played. Bean even said that there was a rebuilding type of trade offered for Tkachuk and they were willing to do it. It might have been a case that they were willing to do it until the Florida offer came in, that part isn't really clear, but the statement at least suggests that under some circumstances, it isn't completely off the table. With the Flames situation right now, those kinds of trades may be the only choice.

One thing they won't do though, is use the word "rebuild". They aren't going to say, we are rebuilding. Small market Canadian teams have enough trouble attracting players. If you say you are rebuilding, it checks one more con box for players signing or accepting a trade there. For optics, they will always dance around that word.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Just curious what Bean and ownerships perspective is on a rebuild? Hearing Friedman talk about Duclair as a return for Hanifin seems like ownership kyboshing a rebuild.

Rebuild? That isn’t a word that people like to use because it makes it difficult to negotiate contacts and attract future players… don’t forget the non hockey effects if has on the business too. Instead we fans will hear things like being competitive, injecting youth and working hard every night.

Rebuilding also makes it difficult to change gears where if the stars align you can pivot quickly, like Calgary did after the “Heat Attack Kids” season. The biggest failure was being a year in and year out team instead of building a consistent competing roster.

Bean is … He’s very intelligent and highly effective in his role at CSEC. However when it comes to the Flames and Hockey Ops he’s much better at relaying Concession sales, Budgets and Season ticket holder retention strategy than hockey operations related information. Case and point the press conference.

Murray is Murray. He spends money but it’s has to make money. Him owning the Flames was always to hold the nuts of the city and have a level of political influence through his assets. It got the province to pony up. This shouldn’t be a shock to anyone. It could be worse but it could be better.

As for Duclair talk is just connecting people A) who work together and B) Huberdeau isn’t JG13 on his Edges and isn’t very light on his feet. He needs people who make defenders make mistakes not the other way around. JG13 forced defenders to make mistakes on a nightly basis and punished it. Also Noah and Florida are only linked because him and MT are close.


I should answer the question; I personally believe if well presented they would agree to a well planned and executed rebuild but if it’s 3 years. It sure better be 3 years. Colorado did this but they also had Nathan and Gabe, Calgary doesn’t have two players like that at a young age.

But if you could find your way into the Top 10 of this draft you could argue you have Wolf + X + X, let’s build.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Sec214

I mentioned on a earlier post somewhere about Conroy having his phone on all week. I expect coming in he had open and honest dialogue with the players and said “Let’s cut the bull####” and a lot of the guys believed and trusted him thus resulting in players being “Honest”.

So much for Conny being “too nice” and a “pushover” like some people thought he’d be

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Just like Tkachuk I respect Hanifin for giving the Flames the best opportunity on return with a sign and trade. That’s called professionalism, unlike whatever Johnny and his goof agent pulled. You make a decision and allow the team to prepare to move on.

Correct me if I am wrong, but since a sign and trade will have to happen after the draft, the deal cannot contain a 2023 draft pick.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

So much for Conny being “too nice” and a “pushover” like some people thought he’d be

Those of us who had the chance to watch Conroy play know that this narrative is kind of nuts. You don't become a two time Selke finalist while being a pushover.

Conroy is a nice guy and all but he is as competitive as any human being can be.