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Old 06-23-2023, 03:58 PM   #11481
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This all comes across as surreal. Or fake. I haven't decided which it feels like more.
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Old 06-23-2023, 04:01 PM   #11482
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1672358281094864896


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Old 06-23-2023, 04:19 PM   #11484
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So Wagner takes out Putin and takes over Russia? Not sure if that is better or worse at this point.
I think it is better. The new leader will be distracted stealing massive amounts of money from the Russian people.
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Old 06-23-2023, 04:20 PM   #11485
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There's no one with the power to take over who's not going to be a giant piece of ####.

Boris Nemtsov was Russia's last chance for a generation.
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Old 06-23-2023, 04:28 PM   #11486
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When does Russian TV switch to Swan Lake?
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There's no one with the power to take over who's not going to be a giant piece of ####.

Boris Nemtsov was Russia's last chance for a generation.
Vladimir Kara-Murza, not that I think he will get out of prison.
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Old 06-23-2023, 04:55 PM   #11488
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Who knew that relying so heavily on a cut-throat mercenary group to fight a war for you instead of your own military would have negative consequences?
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Old 06-23-2023, 05:02 PM   #11489
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This all comes across as surreal. Or fake. I haven't decided which it feels like more.
I hear you. Pretty difficult to ascertain what is in fact happening.
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Old 06-23-2023, 05:08 PM   #11490
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I just really hope that nothing truly disastrous comes out of this.
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Old 06-23-2023, 05:17 PM   #11491
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I just really hope that nothing truly disastrous comes out of this.
Other than a catalyst to finally end this criminal invasion of Ukraine. I wish nothing but disaster on Putin.
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:18 PM   #11492
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Found this feed in one of those twitter threads.
Does anything look odd here?
Are there normally this many people walking down the streets chanting something at midnight?
And several police boats (5 visible right now) on the water.

I watched a fair bit of this. Looked like a Friday night on one of the longest days of the year with light shows and celebrations. Pretty wild how light out it is.
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:41 PM   #11493
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Military base on fire in Moscow!


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Old 06-23-2023, 06:42 PM   #11494
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:45 PM   #11495
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Prighozin claims he has 25K reserves. Unknown about russian forces...who are kind of already tied up in a war they are losing.
This is nuts. Does Prighozin have any popular support in Russia? Could the end result be Wagner setting up a state within Russia?
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Old 06-23-2023, 06:55 PM   #11496
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Old 06-23-2023, 07:07 PM   #11497
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Yeah if you are a general with influence right now you take control and occupy something in defense of “Russia”. Then you pick who that his once you know whose winning. That or GTFO.

I’m interested if Kadyrov gets involved with his army now.

The other interesting thing is that I suspect the Ukrainian offensive is going to get easier without any command and control on the Russian side. This next short period of time is also probably the greatest risk of a stray nuke being launched or a power plant blowing up.
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Old 06-23-2023, 07:10 PM   #11498
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This is nuts. Does Prighozin have any popular support in Russia? Could the end result be Wagner setting up a state within Russia?
Oh yeah he does! Many Russians think the wangner group is very cool

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Old 06-23-2023, 07:11 PM   #11499
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This is nuts. Does Prighozin have any popular support in Russia? Could the end result be Wagner setting up a state within Russia?
Very much so, he's likely #2 behind Putin (which is why he is deliberately avoiding direct confrontation with him)

https://twitter.com/user/status/1672387845749702658

https://twitter.com/user/status/1672397503797547008

https://twitter.com/user/status/1672406193925509120

Make of these tweets from Prighozin as you will, but Russia's is making a heavy effort to censor the internet and all footage in areas with reported Wagner activity. I also saw a statement from St. Petersburg representatives they have 2 choices and they stand with Prighozin, can't find it anymore though.

Nothing can be corroborated yet outside of the few videos we see that shows major Russian cities on lockdown, and that Russia is trying their hardest to censor everything.

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Old 06-23-2023, 07:21 PM   #11500
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Firefights reported in Rostov between Wagner and Russian National Guard (explains why the camera were shut down). Alleged Wagner convoy passing through military checkpoints with guards letting them through as well.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1672407154605604867

https://twitter.com/user/status/1672413067735453698
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