2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I still think a Lindholm deal with Colorado can make sense.

To Colorado:
Elias Lindholm

To Calgary:
Alex Newhook
Bowen Byram

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Replay the Hamilton trade for 2 young players. Colorado gets back to serious contender level.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

Sillinger is a much better prospect than Raty and Beauvillier was a cap throw in.

I think you can make a case for the 1st and a prospect. You're not getting a roster player on top of it, unless it's a cap dump.

I think sillinger is a better prospect but not by a big margin. 20 year old sillinger (now) had a comparable year to 19 year old Raty (when raty was traded).

Peeke and bean are the same caliberof player and age as beauvillier.
Cbj is overloaded with defence right now.

[TheScorpion]

I don't think anyone is trading for players on the 2018 WJC team until that investigation is complete and the results are published. Bean was on that team.

From my vantage point, I'd be deeply interested in a trade with Denton Mateychuk at the centre. Maybe you could do something like Mateychuk + Blankenburg + Chinakhov or Roslovic. Or maybe Boqvist in there over Blankenburg.

[shutout]

Duhatschek in the Athletic has five trade ideas to throw around.
A couple of them might be interesting for Flames fans to substitute Lindholm in place of the expiring free agent players.

https://theathletic.com/4597599/2023...rincat-zegras/

1. Ducks trade Trevor Zegras to the Blue Jackets for the No. 3 pick in 2023

2. Jets trade Pierre-Luc Dubois to the Hurricanes for Martin Necas and Jesperi
Kotkaniemi

3. Flames trade Dan Vladar to the Kings for Sean Durzi and a second-round pick

4. Flyers trade Kevin Hayes to Avalanche for future considerations (40 percent salary
retained)

5. Senators trade Alex DeBrincat to the Red Wings for Filip Zadina and the 17th pick in
2023


Zegras for #3 is a much more plausible trade than Lindholm for #3.

Lindholm to the Hurricanes for that package would help the Flames to get younger.

Lindholm to the Wings idea has been talked about before. Would help the Flames in Zadina ever lived up more to his draft potential.

[Blaster86]

Zegras for #3 is infinitely closer to fair value. I'd be shocked if the Ducks did that though. Zegras has that Patty Kane feel to him.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

Don't stop with the Huberdeau hate CP.

A lot of posters gonna be eating crow next year.

Maybe you missed the 8 year part of the deal.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by shutout

Duhatschek in the Athletic has five trade ideas to throw around.
A couple of them might be interesting for Flames fans to substitute Lindholm in place of the expiring free agent players.

https://theathletic.com/4597599/2023...rincat-zegras/

1. Ducks trade Trevor Zegras to the Blue Jackets for the No. 3 pick in 2023

2. Jets trade Pierre-Luc Dubois to the Hurricanes for Martin Necas and Jesperi
Kotkaniemi

3. Flames trade Dan Vladar to the Kings for Sean Durzi and a second-round pick

4. Flyers trade Kevin Hayes to Avalanche for future considerations (40 percent salary
retained)

5. Senators trade Alex DeBrincat to the Red Wings for Filip Zadina and the 17th pick in
2023


Zegras for #3 is a much more plausible trade than Lindholm for #3.

Lindholm to the Hurricanes for that package would help the Flames to get younger.

Lindholm to the Wings idea has been talked about before. Would help the Flames in Zadina ever lived up more to his draft potential.

I don’t see why CBJ would pass up on a big, two-way centre when they already have two forwards similar to Zegras in Gaudreau and Johnson. From a roster construction perspective, it doesn’t make much sense.

The CAR beat reporter for the Athletic just did a stay/leave prognosis, and interestingly he had Necas in the ‘maybe leave’ category. He’s supposed to have been offered in the Tkachuk pitch last summer. And in spite of his big surge in production, Necas’ wilting in the playoffs again has apparently become a concern.

You’d have to think Necas would be the bulk of the return in a Lindholm deal - he’s four years younger and outscored Lindholm by 7 points this season.

I’d stay away from Zadina. He’s trending the wrong way, and DET have other young players with upside and without the warning signs of Zadina.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by shutout

Duhatschek in the Athletic has five trade ideas to throw around.
A couple of them might be interesting for Flames fans to substitute Lindholm in place of the expiring free agent players.

https://theathletic.com/4597599/2023...rincat-zegras/

1. Ducks trade Trevor Zegras to the Blue Jackets for the No. 3 pick in 2023

2. Jets trade Pierre-Luc Dubois to the Hurricanes for Martin Necas and Jesperi
Kotkaniemi

3. Flames trade Dan Vladar to the Kings for Sean Durzi and a second-round pick

4. Flyers trade Kevin Hayes to Avalanche for future considerations (40 percent salary
retained)

5. Senators trade Alex DeBrincat to the Red Wings for Filip Zadina and the 17th pick in
2023


Zegras for #3 is a much more plausible trade than Lindholm for #3.

Lindholm to the Hurricanes for that package would help the Flames to get younger.

Lindholm to the Wings idea has been talked about before. Would help the Flames in Zadina ever lived up more to his draft potential.

Duha is one of my favourite all time journalists...but IMO he's a bit out to lunch lately.

1. Anaheim has built their entire marketing brand around Zegras, I doubt he's moved.

2. Necas had 71 points last year which is better than any season in Dubois entire career, and he's a year younger. You're not trading him and Kotkaniemi for Dubois.

3. Sean Durzi had 9 goals and 38 points last year...you're not getting him and a 2nd for Dan Vladar.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by shutout

Duhatschek in the Athletic has five trade ideas to throw around.
A couple of them might be interesting for Flames fans to substitute Lindholm in place of the expiring free agent players.

https://theathletic.com/4597599/2023...rincat-zegras/

1. Ducks trade Trevor Zegras to the Blue Jackets for the No. 3 pick in 2023

2. Jets trade Pierre-Luc Dubois to the Hurricanes for Martin Necas and Jesperi
Kotkaniemi

3. Flames trade Dan Vladar to the Kings for Sean Durzi and a second-round pick

4. Flyers trade Kevin Hayes to Avalanche for future considerations (40 percent salary
retained)

5. Senators trade Alex DeBrincat to the Red Wings for Filip Zadina and the 17th pick in
2023


Zegras for #3 is a much more plausible trade than Lindholm for #3.

Lindholm to the Hurricanes for that package would help the Flames to get younger.

Lindholm to the Wings idea has been talked about before. Would help the Flames in Zadina ever lived up more to his draft potential.

I would trade Lindholm straight up for Necas, I would even add. Of course when I suggested that same thing myself I got dogpiled on for suggesting Carolina would do that.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

3. Sean Durzi had 9 goals and 38 points last year...you're not getting him and a 2nd for Dan Vladar.

I doubt you are getting either Durzi or the 2nd round pick for Vladar.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I still think a Lindholm deal with Colorado can make sense.

To Colorado:
Elias Lindholm

To Calgary:
Alex Newhook
Bowen Byram

----

Replay the Hamilton trade for 2 young players. Colorado gets back to serious contender level.

Swap Girard for Byram and there might be something there

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I’d stay away from Zadina. He’s trending the wrong way, and DET have other young players with upside and without the warning signs of Zadina.

Zadina is a home run swing. He's languished in Detroit's system but if he can deliver on some of that promise, hooo boy.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I would trade Lindholm straight up for Necas, I would even add. Of course when I suggested that same thing myself I got dogpiled on for suggesting Carolina would do that.

So would I, although I think there is zero chance that Carolina trades Necas now that he's broken out.

The time to trade for Necas was before his break out season. That ship has now sailed.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

So would I, although I think there is zero chance that Carolina trades Necas now that he's broken out.

The time to trade for Necas was before his break out season. That ship has now sailed.

According to some here, this is the best time to try and get him because smart teams all want to sell high.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Swap Girard for Byram and there might be something there

Last year with the horvat thing there was talk of him going to colorado and I forget who but it came out they basically view byram as untouchable

The switch to girard makes this look really fair

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

It was always a pipe dream when you're getting a guy that would be 1st OA in almost any other year. Acquiring a center a decade older wouldn't make sense at all. If they love Lindholm so much they'll just cross their fingers he's available come 2024.

I can't believe how many Lindholm for 3OA proposals were on CP over the last month. And they were serious, and in some cases actually pulling other posters back with their adds, suggesting they were giving too much for it.

whoa whoa whoa, if we're giving them Lindholm AND our 16thOA they'd better be sending their other first back as well!!!

[topfiverecords]

3-way trade CLB/CGY/PHI centered around 3OA - Konecny

Flames broker but don’t give Philly the 3rd pick and don’t give Columbus Konecny.

Turn the phone off.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

I doubt you are getting either Durzi or the 2nd round pick for Vladar.

Thank you

I was going to say either piece of that deal would be an amazing return for Vladar alone both.

The Carolina deal seems like a crazy overpay as well unless Kotkaniemi is already seen as a cap dump. If I am Carolina I have no interest in a straight PLD-Necas swap let alone adding to it.

[Mass_nerder]

Sign me up for Durzi; I can't stand him, so that's exactly the kind of guy I want on the team

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Come on now.. That very same pick (plus additional assets) has been traded twice already for far inferior players in Horvat and Hronek.

You guys are vastly underrating Lindholm here. He's 28.. not 33 for crying out loud. Every single player that has played alongside him since his arrival here has had a career season.. Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Monahan, Toffoli, Dube..

He will be 38 at the end of his 8 year contract.

Hey’s a great player needing a contract for his likely non- prime years which will decrease his value.

Now, that doesn’t mean a poor return, but he’s not getting the #3 OA or multiple first round picks .