[Trade] CBJ acquire Damon Severson in a sign and trade. (8 yrs, $6.25 mil AAV)

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

https://twitter.com/user/status/1667169989508431881

That seems a lot like Hanifin’s description.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

In before someone throws a fit we didn't trade Hanifin to the Jackets yet again.

One less place for Hanifin to go. Hopefully we get him under a long term deal.

Someone is going to have to play left D on a team that isn't tearing it down. At these kinds of numbers, young and still showing upside, it's a no brainer to sign him.

[SuperMatt18]

Severson is pretty good and underrated type...similar to Weegar in a lot of ways.

I was hoping we'd move some of the UFA dmen and would acquire him due to his relationship with Huska.

If anything this might help Hanifin's trade value prior to the draft, the top under 30 d-man that was available as a UFA is off the board. Means fewer teams might wait to see if they can get Severson and will just jump into the trade market instead.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Severson is pretty good and underrated type...similar to Weegar in a lot of ways.

I was hoping we'd move some of the UFA dmen and would acquire him due to his relationship with Huska.

I see him as pretty similar to Hanifin, so why not just re-sign the guy who’s here?

[FanIn80]

Treliving breaking barriers and setting standards!

[Sylvanfan]

I figured that Columbus would be trying to bolster its defence after allowing over 4 goals per game. Might still be looking for a defensive center like Lindholm but the cap space is done.

I have not researched Werenski's injury but I thought he'd be back this coming season.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I see him as pretty similar to Hanifin, so why not just re-sign the guy who’s here?

Because Severson was a UFA and I thought his connection to Huska and being from Melville, SASK might make him interesting in Calgary.

Bring in the UFA who is going to cost you nothing (or a 3rd in this case) and move Hanifin who likely brings back at least a first. On ice and from a cap hit perspective you're likely in the same position but come out of it with extra assets.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I see him as pretty similar to Hanifin, so why not just re-sign the guy who’s here?

We’ll trading Hanifin for assets and then signing a UFA for “free” asset wise is a quick way to start restocking .

Now the question is why would anyone trade for Hanifin until all the similar UFAs have signed . And would any pick Flames over the other teams

You almost have to overpay a UFA then deal Hanifin , which probably gets you a downgrade at D and a bloated contract . Doesn’t really make sense for a team “going for it” to acquire a few picks

Now if we are honest and realize next year isn’t a go for it year you could trade Hanifin , maybe overpay on a short deal (2 years) mid tier UFA, and have assets and cap room going forward while not throwing in the towel next year

(I don’t love that option either )

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Because Severson was a UFA.

Bring in the UFA who is going to cost you nothing (or a 3rd in this case) and move Hanifin who likely brings back at least a first. On ice and from a cap hit perspective you're likely in the same position but come out of it with extra assets.

Assuming the UFA picks Calgary over 31 teams

GL

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Assuming the UFA picks Calgary over 31 teams

GL

Lots of UFAs have picked here.

Calgary isn't the most attractive market but this sentiment is overblown.

Neal (unfortunately), Markstrom, Tanev, Coleman, Kadri were all seen as top players in free agency and all of them chose Calgary.

Severson played for Huska in Kelowna and is from Saskatchewan. I doubt Columbus was seen as some type of top destination over Calgary. I'd bet if Calgary offered 8 x $6.25M on a sign and trade that he might have chosen here too.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Assuming the UFA picks Calgary over 31 teams

GL

We haven't really had any trouble signing UFAs in the past and would even go to say that Calgary is probably the second or third most desirable Canadian Market following Toronto for UFAs.

Calgary has picked up some of the bigger name College players in the past, picked up solid UFAs who were among the top of the UFA classes.

Sure the pandemic threw a stick in the wheels a bit but that impacts all of Canada as a whole.

The top top names either pick thier hometown or the more desirable US markets, at least 20 other teams are in a similar situation.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Flames1217

We haven't really had any trouble signing UFAs in the past and would even go to say that Calgary isprobably the second or third most desirable Canadian Market following Toronto for UFAs.

Calgary has picked up some of the bigger name College players in the past, picked up solid UFAs who were among the top of the UFA classes.

Sure the pandemic threw a stick in the wheels a bit but that impacts all of Canada as a whole.

The top top names either pick thier hometown or the more desirable US markets, at least 20 other teams are in a similar situation.

So…we’ve succeeded in overpaying for mid-low tier talent in free agency.



I know it’s not really the point of the conversation, but free agency is a tool of the incompetent. You don’t build good teams through free agency. Perhaps you can compliment your team with high value signings, but I really hope this team is done swimming in that pool for a good long time.

[Flames1217]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

So…we’ve succeeded in overpaying for mid-low tier talent in free agency.

Like every other single team in the league.

[ForeverFlameFan]

This doesn’t make sense for Columbus at all. You had Peeke, Boqvist, and Jiricek on the right side.

Werenski
Severson
Provorov
Jiricek
Bean
Gudbranson
Peeke
Boquist
Blankenburg
Bayreuther

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Lots of UFAs have picked here.

Calgary isn't the most attractive market but this sentiment is overblown.

Neal (unfortunately), Markstrom, Tanev, Coleman, Kadri were all seen as top players in free agency and all of them chose Calgary.

Severson played for Huska in Kelowna and is from Saskatchewan. I doubt Columbus was seen as some type of top destination over Calgary. I'd bet if Calgary offered 8 x $6.25M on a sign and trade that he might have chosen here too.

The problem becomes how many of these ultra premium contracts can you realistically carry on a roster. They already have three right now. I don't think you can carry too many more than that. Moving Hanifan for assets is fine...but don't undo it by taking another 8 year deal on another guy who's similar.

[DoubleK]

Hopefully this means the Devs can sign Bratt and Meier.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Lots of UFAs have picked here.

Calgary isn't the most attractive market but this sentiment is overblown.

Neal (unfortunately), Markstrom, Tanev, Coleman, Kadri were all seen as top players in free agency and all of them chose Calgary.

Calgary also offered the most money.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Assuming the UFA picks Calgary over 31 teams

GL

Remember when I said if Columbus got Bedard they could be better than the Flames and you thought it was ridiculous? They might be better than the Flames even though they did not get Bedard.

Columbus just needs a goalie now and no way they trade #3 overall now so they will be adding Leo to the mix who could be a franchise center.

Flames need a year where the load up and then look at doing something similar to Columbus.

[HighLifeMan]

This makes the Weegar deal look like a steal in all honesty.

Severson is very suspect defensively, stinks on the PP for whatever reason, but does provide offense and puck moving ability at five on five.

He is coming off a great season in an insulated role this past year playing just shy of under 20 minutes a game (which is only a minute more a night than Zadorov for example). This is just the first time during his career he has managed to break even at even strength in terms of goal differential.

This one is not going to age well in my books.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

This makes the Weegar deal look like a steal in all honesty.

Severson is very suspect defensively, stinks on the PP for whatever reason, but does provide offense and puck moving ability at five on five.

He is coming off a great season in an insulated role this past year playing just shy of under 20 minutes a game (which is only a minute more a night than Zadorov for example). This is just the first time during his career he has managed to break even at even strength in terms of goal differential.

This one is not going to age well in my books.

I think he should be fine as long as he's not the top RD on the team, which he won't be. Jiricek will take that spot rather quick.