[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by pepper24

I like that. Even better if they did small business tax reduction and kept corporate tax rates the same.

Or, hear me out, we do the small business tax reduction and change are corporate tax rate to be tied as the lowest rate in Canada.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I would guess he's from South Africa already? Many small town doctors were south african when i was growing up

South Africa is a public safety nightmare, there is a reason so many flee

[Fuzz]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1664001962399117312


Sorry, no commies allowed.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Denmark's spending also only has 1.6% GDP from private health spending and Canada has 3% of the health spending from Private.. maybe if we had more public dollars used in healthcare and less private dollars we could have healthcare as good as them.

Pretty sure there is far more nuance to consider.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by zamler

Denmark spends 11% of GDP on healthcare they have what most consider the best system. How does that compare to your "3% of my discretionary spending" exactly?

Well a 3% PST, on top off what money is already going towards health care should certainly create a better system.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by pepper24

From College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta:

"At the end of December 2022 there were 11407 physicians registered on the inprovince registers. This figure reflects an increase of 61 from the last quarter,
and an increase of 254 from the same period in 2021."

https://cpsa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2...rly-Report.pdf

Have you done your homework on the definition of registered? Physicians can be licensed in Alberta but spend their time in other provinces. I know of two physicians in Ontario who are still licensed in Alberta just in-case they decide they want to move, or take extra work in the province.

You're also downplaying the type of physicians that are needed in Alberta. There is a severe shortage of family docs, particularly rural family docs. 700,000 Albertans do not have a family physician.

You should also know that the most recent Quarterly Report doesn't look as rosy. That quarterly net decrease of 275 was a result of 179 new registrations and 454 cancellations.

This article also articulates some of those concerns for Albertans:

Could a national physician registry help Alberta's doctor shortage? Some physicians think so

Alberta election: High River doctors raise concerns over shortages in rural health care

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by zamler

Pretty sure there is far more nuance to consider.

I'm sure there is. But you wanted to know how the 3% discretionary figure compares to Denmark's 11% GDP spending.

Maybe a better way to put it is that Denmark spends 9.25% GDP on government health spending but Canada only spends 8.69%. 3% additional taxes would go a long way to catching those number up.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by pepper24

From College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta:

"At the end of December 2022 there were 11407 physicians registered on the inprovince registers. This figure reflects an increase of 61 from the last quarter,
and an increase of 254 from the same period in 2021."

https://cpsa.ca/wp-content/uploads/2...rly-Report.pdf

To keep pace with population growth in 2022 they would have needed an increase of 410 vs. the 254 they achieved. So they're falling behind.

[zamler]

Originally Posted by belsarius

I'm sure there is. But you wanted to know how the 3% discretionary figure compares to Denmark's 11% GDP spending.

Maybe a better way to put it is that Denmark spends 9.25% GDP on government health spending but Canada only spends 8.69%. 3% additional taxes would go a long way to catching those number up.

And that's it? Problem solved?

[CroFlames]

I wondering if Northern Europeans are generally healthier and so their healthcare costs are lower.

I mean, have you ever seen a fat Dane or Swede walking by? No. They are all look like models.

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

You're also downplaying the type of physicians that are needed in Alberta. There is a severe shortage of family docs, particularly rural family docs. 700,000 Albertans do not have a family physician.

That's a failure that applies to all of Canada. BC is supposed to have 900K to nearly 1 million people without a family doctor. Based on Statistics Canada data, even with the supposed decline in family doctors in recent years Alberta is doing better than the Canadian average.



https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...rDisplay=false

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by zamler

And that's it? Problem solved?

Of course not. There will have to be redesigns on everything. I've said this multiple times in the Alberta Politics thread but I really don't think we can fix the system without a huge cash outlay up front with returns over time. The system is so fragmented and piecemeal that it will need a lot more than 4 years of spending to get it back on track. No political party wants to try that, so we end up just keeping up the maintenance instead of buying a whole new car.

So we can increase funding to keep things going, we can dedicate $20B+ to revamping the system or we can let it fail and sell it off to the lowest bidder.

UCP seem to be aiming at option 3, NDP at option 1, and no one is seriously considering option 2, because although it makes the most sense, it is also the least politically viable option.

[RogerWilco]

Originally Posted by pepper24

Glad the UPC won and best choice IMO. Alberta is a conservative province and will always be one.

NDP had an uphill battle not campaigning on their record when in office and instead going after Danielle Smith.

It was over when they got Todd Hirsch involved and knew that would hurt them in Calgary. The backlash from the firework debacle didn't help either.

What does the fire work thing have to do with the provincial election? lol.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by RogerWilco

What does the fire work thing have to do with the provincial election? lol.

It's all connected man. First they make us wear masks, and then they take away our fireworks. Next thing you know they're having sex with our wives. It's all a part of the WEF.

[Kickazzflames]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It's all connected man. First they make us wear masks, and then they take away our fireworks. Next thing you know they're having sex with our wives. It's all a part of the WEF.

Oh man, my Wife's boyfriend is gonna be pissed.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I'm happy to say that I've now received messages confirming my resident location beneath the skin of certain national parks. I will endeavor to remain an irritant for some time.

Congrats on your free lifetime national park pass.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Congrats on your free lifetime national park pass.

Just careful if you have to use any bridges, I hear there are trolls lurking.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

I guess the ONLY good thing with the UCP winning is that Oiler fans are going to pay a part for our new building. They deserve at least 2 banners for giving us millions...

We can't really give Oiler fans #### when they're the ones who rejected the UCP completely and Calgarians were the idiots who gave them another 4-year mandate

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

We can't really give Oiler fans #### when they're the ones who rejected the UCP completely and Calgarians were the idiots who gave them another 4-year mandate

Yeah we should have voted NDP and has her pull the arena that would show Oilers fans.

[zamler]

Calgary arena deal getting scrapped is a strong incentive for Edmonton to vote NDP when you think about it.