[GT] Alberta Votes 2023.

[Ozy_Flame]

Using Reddit as a benchmark for public sentiment?

If that was the case, the NDP would have been elected in Alberta by a country mile.

But if we're going to play that game, it's probably worth noting what are among the top stories in the Alberta reddit are too - and remember, this is just what today brings:

• Canadian Oil and Gas 75% owned by foreign stakeholders.
• For those living in fire evacuated communities, why did you still vote for the group that took away your fire suppression funding?
• Banff-Kananaskis UCP Candidate Gave a Victory Speech - But Lost Her Riding
• Smith to create 'council of defeated' to advise on Edmonton issues
• Fort Chipewyan, accessible by boat and air only, ordered to evacuate

I mean . . . . *shrug*

[Looch City]

Danielle Smith had the largest majority and turnout in conservative HISTORY.

There is no other conservative leader that got as many votes as her. CLEAR victory and unanimously elected to lead this once great province.

BIGLY.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Correct me if I am wrong, but haven't they been in power 4 years already? Where are these immeasurable trickle down effects you speak of?

Three examples will suffice.

Reread the post.

The conservative wave will be coming to an eastern township near you.

[J pold]

Perhaps it's been said elsewhere in this thread, but I think this helps the Federal Liberals in 2025. They now have their boogeyman.

If Notely=Trudeau=Singh and they are all part of the "woke agenda" (Obviously not the case but I do think that message resonated with voters)

Then Smith = Poilievre and the Federal Conservatives are the populist UCP and will privatize healthcare, hate all LGBTQ2+ people, and are socially regressive (I don't think that's totally the case but they will create the narrative).

I think there is a reason why Poilievre only gave Smith a half-hearted endorsement a few days before the election.

Basically, if Smith scares enough people in Eastern Canada, that's Trudeau's "OK, I'm not great but look how insane the Cons are" meal ticket in 2025.

[Superflyer]

Originally Posted by Yoho

https://twitter.com/user/status/1663893086903349250

I love how the media is still trying to find holes in the UCP and Danielle Smith’s majority win.

That was what was so big about this win the coordinated efforts of all the media to go after her and she still won. It’s why all these liberal whiners are so upset. The deck was set and they still screwed it up and floundered to a loss.


This was a huge win for Canada and the trickle down effects of what’s to come are imeasurable. That’s why our friends out east are nervously watching.

How is "the media" trying to find holes. This is an article about how close some of the ridings were and there will be recounts. These happen when the counts are as close as they were in these ridings.
Also the deck was stacked against the UCP by the media.....OK bud!

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Now tell me what proportion of those moving in vs moving out are specialized workers.

Also LMAO at Yoho being one of those brainworm guys that thinks Postmedia of all outlets "had it in" for the exceptionally pro-corporate UCP

I'm genuinely curious on why you believe those moving out are specialized workers, while those moving in are not specialized workers, especially considering you have a 1:2 net ratio? That seems quite stereotypical don't you think? Bring stats. I did.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Reread the post.

The conservative wave will be coming to an eastern township near you.

Re-read the post, provide him three examples.

BTW he lives in Mahogany, in Calgary, Alberta.


BTW, Cro, I hope the mechanic worked out.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Firebot

I'm genuinely curious on why you believe those moving out are specialized workers, while those moving in are not specialized workers, especially considering you have a 1:2 net ratio? That seems quite stereotypical don't you think? Bring stats. I did.

No no, that's not how it works. They want you to do the work for them.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://twitter.com/user/status/1663592040578568197


Gee, I wonder what is going to have to "give". Buckle up, we be ####ed.

BuT I dON't tRuST ThE anDP WItH MoNEy!

we all know where this is going.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Yoho

It must be great out east if you feel you need to post about how bad Alberta and it’s politics are every 10 minutes.

Does that mean you won’t chime in about anything that doesn’t directly impact you or provinces you don’t live in?

[DFO]

The baffling thing about much of the election commentary is that the UCP is being treated as if they weren't in fact the incumbent party. They're coming in to fix all these problems they in created for the most part over the last 4 or so decades? Reality is they hung on but preside over a much slimmer majority. This wasn't some come from behind win - they were always the favourites.

[Matata]

Grumbling about leaving your home because an election didn't go your way and then staying right where you are has been a proud election tradition since GWB was re-elected.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Does that mean you won’t chime in about anything that doesn’t directly impact you or provinces you don’t live in?

Probably not every ten minutes no.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by DFO

The baffling thing about much of the election commentary is that the UCP is being treated as if they weren't in fact the incumbent party. They're coming in to fix all these problems they in created for the most part over the last 4 or so decades? Reality is they hung on but preside over a much slimmer majority. This wasn't some come from behind win - they were always the favourites.

I think that it was a funny dynamic with Notley being the experienced past Premier and Opposition and Smith being the new candidate but current Premier for only a year. It's rare in politics when the incumbent runs against the opponent's more established record.

[Monahammer]

It's outrageous that some people are treating this like a team game. There's no we won. If you're saying that, you better be working for the party.

Treating politics like team sports is about the stupidest thing possible. The people in charge here owe you nothing, and I guarantee they do not have your best interests in mind. We all lost on Monday, some of us are just too ignorant to realize it.

The people saying good riddance to doctors, teachers, and others considering leaving... go live in the woods. You like the smell of your own #### so much, that's the best place for you, animals. Sociability is literally the defining characteristic of the human race over other species, yet you are basically incapable of it.

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by J pold

Perhaps it's been said elsewhere in this thread, but I think this helps the Federal Liberals in 2025. They now have their boogeyman.

If Notely=Trudeau=Singh and they are all part of the "woke agenda" (Obviously not the case but I do think that message resonated with voters)

Then Smith = Poilievre and the Federal Conservatives are the populist UCP and will privatize healthcare, hate all LGBTQ2+ people, and are socially regressive (I don't think that's totally the case but they will create the narrative).

I think there is a reason why Poilievre only gave Smith a half-hearted endorsement a few days before the election.

Basically, if Smith scares enough people in Eastern Canada, that's Trudeau's "OK, I'm not great but look how insane the Cons are" meal ticket in 2025.

I suspect this will be the case as well.

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by DFO

The baffling thing about much of the election commentary is that the UCP is being treated as if they weren't in fact the incumbent party. They're coming in to fix all these problems they in created for the most part over the last 4 or so decades? Reality is they hung on but preside over a much slimmer majority. This wasn't some come from behind win - they were always the favourites.

Conservatives have memories akin to gold fish.

That’s why they keep changing leaders so often these days. Just wipe the slate clean and forget the past! Works wonders for them. Their voters eat this #### up for breakfast.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Using Reddit as a benchmark for public sentiment?

Social media forums in general are majorly liberal and left leaning, including these off topic forums. You can attribute it to 'more educated', 'more informed' more urban, all sorts of reasons if you wish, but they are not representative of the population as a whole, as you pointed out as well.

If that was the case, the NDP would have been elected in Alberta by a country mile.

But if we're going to play that game, it's probably worth noting what are among the top stories in the Alberta reddit are too - and remember, this is just what today brings:

• Canadian Oil and Gas 75% owned by foreign stakeholders.
• For those living in fire evacuated communities, why did you still vote for the group that took away your fire suppression funding?
• Banff-Kananaskis UCP Candidate Gave a Victory Speech - But Lost Her Riding
• Smith to create 'council of defeated' to advise on Edmonton issues
• Fort Chipewyan, accessible by boat and air only, ordered to evacuate

I mean . . . . *shrug*

Well...yeah...Reddit is extremely liberal...lol.

Look at British Columbia's subreddit they are singing Kumbaya over there and most of the posts are about the Alberta exodus (at least today).

Meanwhile here it's a pandemonium of anger and hysteria. This forum is largely an echo chamber and with it being largely left leaning, the comments and thanks are largely resorting to partisanship, no matter how reasonable the post may be. See the reaction I got simply bringing census stats and the thanks of those posts offering their rebuttal.

The stats however, which is what I was pointing out, is that Alberta has a net positive intraprovince migration of over 2 to 1.

[Yoho]

The comments section is awesome in these articles.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1663918253570240516

[Ozy_Flame]

I'm confident a win for Smith in Alberta does nothing to help Poilievre win in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal. And that is where they need to make breakthroughs.

I'm sure the Smith/Poilievre connection will be compared to a Trump/DeSantis situation (even if they hate each other). Heck it makes sense - Poilievre loves the fringe extreme populists, and Smith has admitted DeSantis is her spiritual sacred cow.