Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[curves2000]

Anybody else find it interesting that the national media is bringing out their top people and their teams to Alberta to cover the election and it's results?

Usually they will stay in Ontario, cover another province from afar and than have some local video/analyst or local reporter coverage.

Usually we don't have the top people come out here for a few days and their associated team to be on location.

I understand the importance of AB politics to the national conversation but I think because of how close this election may end up being, they want to be here to cover it locally with their best people.

Interesting times overall

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

The only way that works is if they get rid of Notley and bring in some moderate small c Conservatives.


Like Progressive Conservatives

Notley is practically a small c conservative in the mold of a Joe Clark, Jean Charest, Flora Macdonald or Kim Campbell. She doesn't share much with other NDPers across Canada IMO.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Notley is practically a small c conservative in the mold of a Joe Clark, Jean Charest, Flora Macdonald or Kim Campbell. She doesn't share much with other NDPers across Canada IMO.

I've frequently argued that behind Prentice, Notley is the most conservative Premier we've had this century. That is also accepting that you have to basically chop Ralph Kline in half and look at the guy in debt as a different person from the guy out of debt.

[LanceUppercut]

Originally Posted by curves2000

Anybody else find it interesting that the national media is bringing out their top people and their teams to Alberta to cover the election and it's results?

Usually they will stay in Ontario, cover another province from afar and than have some local video/analyst or local reporter coverage.

Usually we don't have the top people come out here for a few days and their associated team to be on location.

I understand the importance of AB politics to the national conversation but I think because of how close this election may end up being, they want to be here to cover it locally with their best people.

Interesting times overall

I view this as a referendum on the far-right for Conservatives which has federal connotations. If they lose the Alberta election with the likes of Smith and TBA, that actually puts PP and the federal conservatives in a bit of a bind pandering to the trucker convoy #######s.

[Burn13]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Notley is practically a small c conservative in the mold of a Joe Clark, Jean Charest, Flora Macdonald or Kim Campbell. She doesn't share much with other NDPers across Canada IMO.

You can't separate her from Federal NDP Jagmeet, but nice try. But they are trying. No overwhelming acknowledgment from Jagmeet on her election. But she will need to get in line with federal policy if she wins and saying anything different is a lie.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Burn13

You can't separate her from Federal NDP Jagmeet, but nice try. But they are trying. No overwhelming acknowledgment from Jagmeet on her election. But she will need to get in line with federal policy if she wins and saying anything different is a lie.

Ah yeah, they really were in lockstep the first time around.

Just completely arm-in-arm and never deviating ideologically for the entire four year period.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by Burn13

You can't separate her from Federal NDP Jagmeet, but nice try. But they are trying. No overwhelming acknowledgment from Jagmeet on her election. But she will need to get in line with federal policy if she wins and saying anything different is a lie.

Just like when she was in power last time.. totally lockstep with Jagmeet.. I'm sure he was 100% onboard with her pro-pipeline stance.

Like if you have an issue, then bring in a real issue instead of some stupid talking point that continually gets proven false.

[puffnstuff]

Voted. And took my previously undecided neighbour with me. He hadnt planned to vote.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Burn13

You can't separate her from Federal NDP Jagmeet, but nice try. But they are trying. No overwhelming acknowledgment from Jagmeet on her election. But she will need to get in line with federal policy if she wins and saying anything different is a lie.

Dude, I can easily separate her policies from the feds or other provincial NDP platforms. Because they are separate.

Plenty of provincial parties differ from the federal counterparts. Look at BC Liberals.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Burn13

You can't separate her from Federal NDP Jagmeet, but nice try. But they are trying. No overwhelming acknowledgment from Jagmeet on her election. But she will need to get in line with federal policy if she wins and saying anything different is a lie.

Like she did last time she was in office? Can you get the receipts showing that?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Notley is practically a small c conservative in the mold of a Joe Clark, Jean Charest, Flora Macdonald or Kim Campbell. She doesn't share much with other NDPers across Canada IMO.

This is the perplexing part, if Notley and the ANDP don't want to be the NDP that exists federally or in other provinces they should break free. Is it a legacy thing to get father which is keeping the namesake alive?

[puffnstuff]

I see someone has been reading their tba talking points.

[GioforPM]

Alberta NDP Leader Rachel Notley says she completely disagrees with federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh’s stance on oil and gas industry subsidies, because she thinks the economy driving sector needs investment to stay competitive internationally and find innovative ways to reduce emissions.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/i-di...ance-1.6397351

“I think Jagmeet Singh is absolutely, fundamentally, incontrovertibly incorrect in every aspect of that tweet,” Alberta Premier Rachel Notley told reporters later that day.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...trans-mountain

[photon]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Alberta NDP Leader Rachel Notley says she completely disagrees with federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh’s stance

That's exactly what someone who's trying to hide the fact that they're in complete lockstep would say!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This is the perplexing part, if Notley and the ANDP don't want to be the NDP that exists federally or in other provinces they should break free. Is it a legacy thing to get father which is keeping the namesake alive?

Well, there are still a lot of commonalities on health care, worker rights, etc. And new parties are typically disastrous and short lived.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This is the perplexing part, if Notley and the ANDP don't want to be the NDP that exists federally or in other provinces they should break free. Is it a legacy thing to get father which is keeping the namesake alive?

Is there shared funding? shared memberships? There must be some crossover to keep the name.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Is there shared funding? shared memberships? There must be some crossover to keep the name.

I don't know about funding. I don't think the provincial or federal parties can funnel money one way or the other. They can share human resources though at a constituency level as I've read about the feds sending people to Alberta to help with election efforts. They share membership so the supporter database would be worth something.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Burn13

You can't separate her from Federal NDP Jagmeet, but nice try. But they are trying. No overwhelming acknowledgment from Jagmeet on her election. But she will need to get in line with federal policy if she wins and saying anything different is a lie.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Alberta NDP Leader Rachel Notley says she completely disagrees with federal NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh’s stance on oil and gas industry subsidies, because she thinks the economy driving sector needs investment to stay competitive internationally and find innovative ways to reduce emissions.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/i-di...ance-1.6397351

“I think Jagmeet Singh is absolutely, fundamentally, incontrovertibly incorrect in every aspect of that tweet,” Alberta Premier Rachel Notley told reporters later that day.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...trans-mountain

F'ing owned.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Is there shared funding? shared memberships? There must be some crossover to keep the name.

That's what I think the issue is. The membership lists belong to the NDP party, not the Alberta branch. It could very well mean that a name change isn't just a name change, but a complete reset to 0 on all funding/fundraising, membership lists, internal polling and analytics. All of the bureaucracy that goes into a political party would have to be rebuilt from scratch.

Plus if it was my father's legacy, I wouldn't change it, lose the election or not.

[Tron_fdc]

Originally Posted by Muta

F'ing owned.

Pffft by the legacy media maybe.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE