[Rumour] Flames to name Conroy GM. Nonis in an executive role; Iginla advisor

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I find the criticism baffling.

Conroy is a bad hire because you wanted who? Tulsky? That guy you’d never heard of 12 weeks ago and don’t know anything about what he does on the day to day?

Or Conroy is a bad hire because Toronto doesn’t want him?

I am plenty critical of this organization - annoying so to many of you, but there’s nothing to be critical of when it comes to this move because as fans we don’t know #%^* about projecting the next good general manager in the league.

“Oh it’s the old boys club”…yeah, Colorado really shouldn’t have hired Joe Sakic. What a bunch of idiots.

Detroit has Yzerman and everyone loves him.

No one really knows who is the best choice we never sat in interviews.

Tulsky is a hot prospect because the media tells us he is but we know nothing about him. He also was passed over in Chicago who hired a internal candidate.

I'll take the guy who wants the job and wants to be in this market is passionate about the city and fans.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

“Oh it’s the old boys club”…yeah, Colorado really shouldn’t have hired Joe Sakic. What a bunch of idiots.

I can’t believe Carolina hired Brind'amour. Such an idiotic move

[dammage79]

So Iggy will be a special advisor much like Conny was with Feaster and tree, then next year iggy will slide into an agm role? I had him pegged for an assistant coaching job but front office is cool too. Him and conny can and will CGY to anybody.

[Blaster86]

Dave Nonis?!

[Bonded]

I think Nonis will be set up to replace Maloney. I think he is going to retire after this contract.

[dammage79]

Yuo, I'm really okay with how they're building out the front office. Nonis as GM? No Bueno, as an AGM? Totally good move.

Where the rest of the management and coaching group end up is still up in the air though. I suspect some more big changes.

The timeline is nice too as it appears they'll have all their ducks in a row before the draft.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by curves2000

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...neral-manager/

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...oice-flames-gm

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...ob-with-flames

Here are a few articles and there has been lot's of talk on the radio and some other media forms as well.

As I said before, it's not that Conroy hasn't earned his promotion or that this is completely out of left field. I get it, ownership is comfortable with a guy they know and is coming in probably on the lower end of the salary line given his experience. He isn't bringing in a $25 million dollar contract over the next 5 years.

I just don't think in a hypothetical scenario if the Lighting/Hawks/Stars/Capitals or any other team with a lot of recent winning would be clamoring to hire specifically Conroy.

I hope I am wrong and I hope Conroy does well and is an out of the box thinker, has full control to do what is needed. I just don't wanna hear that the Flames global search for a top manager in the sport led them to believe that the best overall person for the job was the guy who has played a key role in the management of the club for 10+ years when our performance overall has been suspect.

Those are all pretty standard fluff pieces. Are you expecting an article to come out and say he is a terrible choice etc?

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

30 seconds on Google: https://thehockeywriters.com/flames-...draft-history/

GMBT's biggest error was not loading up on draft picks, precisely because of how reliable his scouts are at finding NHLers.

As I told you earlier, there is an even better analysis on here by a forum member, but I am not going to search it out for you.

I think your Spurs frustration is spilling over to the Flames. Your hyperbole about how bad the Flames are is ridiculous.

LOL that proves nothing my “negativity” on the Flames is nothing more than looking at the results of the team. Sorry if reality bothers you so much.

[cannon7]

The braintrust that was "really impressed" with Dave Nonis picked Conroy to be GM. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

And that same braintrust hasn't accomplished anything of note in NHL management over the course of a 30+ year career. He's only here because his protege gave him a job. It certainly wasn't through merit.

I sure hope Conroy is a brilliant hockey mind and leads this franchise back into being a perennial competitor. I really do.

But it will only be as a result of a Maloney fluke. Sorry if I'm skeptical.

[CMPunk]

Originally Posted by cannon7

The braintrust that was "really impressed" with Dave Nonis picked Conroy to be GM. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

And that same braintrust hasn't accomplished anything of note in NHL management over the course of a 30+ year career. He's only here because his protege gave him a job. It certainly wasn't through merit.

I sure hope Conroy is a brilliant hockey mind and leads this franchise back into being a perennial competitor. I really do.

But it will only be as a result of a Maloney fluke. Sorry if I'm skeptical.

[1qqaaz]

Originally Posted by cannon7

The braintrust that was "really impressed" with Dave Nonis picked Conroy to be GM. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

And that same braintrust hasn't accomplished anything of note in NHL management over the course of a 30+ year career. He's only here because his protege gave him a job. It certainly wasn't through merit.

I sure hope Conroy is a brilliant hockey mind and leads this franchise back into being a perennial competitor. I really do.

But it will only be as a result of a Maloney fluke. Sorry if I'm skeptical.

Wasn't the Coyotes' best span in their history under Maloney?
Didn't he win GM of the year in 2010? While having tight cap restrictions?

I get the skepticism in your premise, but Maloney has accomplished something.

For Nonis, I will agree, he hasn't accomplished anything at all.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Wasn't the Coyotes' best span in their history under Maloney?
Didn't he win GM of the year in 2010? While having tight cap restrictions?

I get the skepticism in your premise, but Maloney has accomplished something.

For Nonis, I will agree, he hasn't accomplished anything at all.

Yes, he won a GM of the year award. What did he do?

Maloney added several players to the Coyotes roster over the summer, acquiring Radim Vrbata, Sami Lepisto, Lauri Korpikoski and Jim Vandermeer through trades while signing veteran free agents Adrian Aucoin, Vernon Fiddler, Jason LaBarbera, Taylor Pyatt and Robert Lang. Those players joined a veteran core that already included the likes of Shane Doan, Ed Jovanovski, Zbynek Michalek and Ilya Bryzgalov.

...

With the Coyotes already enjoying a breakout season, the acquisitions of forwards Lee Stempniak, Wojtek Wolski and Petteri Nokelainen plus defensemen Derek Morris and Mathieu Schneider at the Mar. 3 trade deadline propelled the club to even greater heights as Phoenix won nine consecutive games following the trade deadline (Mar. 4-21) to tie a club record.”

So a winning season, nine game winning streak and a quick first round exit in the playoffs. Amazing stuff. Definitely want that guy deciding the future of the Flames.

Why Don Maloney received first-ever GM of the year award

[bax]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Yes, he won a GM of the year award. What did he do?



So a winning season, nine game winning streak and a quick first round exit in the playoffs. Amazing stuff. Definitely want that guy deciding the future of the Flames.

Why Don Maloney received first-ever GM of the year award

We should go after Chiarelli, that guy won the Stanley Cup! Talk about success!

[Ferarri]

This is going to be a hard time to fix but I believe they have character people running the show (not to say BT wasn’t in that conversation as well). People need to let this play out before criticizing the moves and blaming ownership. Sure, we have a history of underperforming but it’s only fair to give this new regime a chance. Patience is going to be key. There is a lot of bad contracts on this team and turning into a Stanley cup caliber team overnight is just not realistic.

A lot of people screamed for change and here it is. Maybe the personnel could have been different but we are here now and it’s time to be fair as a fan base and give this group an opportunity (not to say they shouldn’t be immune to criticism but they haven’t made one move as a collective group). It seems that the group will be progressive and this is evident by them canning Sutter. It’s going to look different next year and let’s see how this plays out before automatically prescribing it as a failure before even playing a game.

Worst case scenario, we continue to suck or get worse…is this anything new? Of course I kid as it’s good to have high expectations but patience is also necessary.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by bax

We should go after Chiarelli, that guy won the Stanley Cup! Talk about success!

Best thing Maloney ever did was hire Dave Tippett. But still couldn't give him the horses.

Guess what I am saying is a guy that ran the Coyotes into the ground, who gets pulled out of the unemployment line by his former assistant to be a pro scout is now deciding the franchise's future. Just doesn't sit well. If 2016-2023 Flames weren't a disappointment, I might feel differently. But that's a meritocracy for ya.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Yes, he won a GM of the year award. What did he do?



So a winning season, nine game winning streak and a quick first round exit in the playoffs. Amazing stuff. Definitely want that guy deciding the future of the Flames.

Why Don Maloney received first-ever GM of the year award

They should just hire you. How could they be so stupid as to not?

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Best thing Maloney ever did was hire Dave Tippett. But still couldn't give him the horses.

Guess what I am saying is a guy that ran the Coyotes into the ground, who gets pulled out of the unemployment line by his former assistant to be a pro scout is now deciding the franchise's future. Just doesn't sit well. If 2016-2023 Flames weren't a disappointment, I might feel differently. But that's a meritocracy for ya.

You really think this decision was Maloney's alone?

[Paulie Walnuts]

The Coyotes are the joke of the sports world the fact he had them running is amazing.

I can't remember but they hardly had a management team it was Maloney and Treliving pretty much doing everything.

Bill Daly touched on it before that they both did a tremendous job in Arizona under tough circumstances.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He signed Clarkson

Agreed it's like hiring a head coach but picking his assistants. That's why I think Huska and Muller should go.

It will be interesting what Iggy has in mind but I think he's being groomed like Conroy was.

Both guys during the Brent era said we needed to score so think they will value skill scoring speed over face punchers.

Well, not necessarily. Iginla has stated on a few occasions when he was a player that he prefers there to be a guy to do that job so that he doesn't have to do as much of it.



I also don't know why a team can't be high-scoring, skilled, and fast, but while also being a tough team to play against. Two seasons ago, the Flames had one of their best regular seasons on record, and they were the most 'scary' in a very long time.



The '89 Flames were very skilled, but as a group, they were very tough. The '04 team wasn't that highly skilled top to bottom, but they were very fast and very scary. I get that we all get tired of not having enough skill, but I do believe a balanced lineup can include a nice mix of skill, speed and toughness on a team that competes in a physical sport.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He signed Clarkson

Agreed it's like hiring a head coach but picking his assistants. That's why I think Huska and Muller should go.

It will be interesting what Iggy has in mind but I think he's being groomed like Conroy was.

Both guys during the Brent era said we needed to score so think they will value skill scoring speed over face punchers.

How do we know that Conroy didn't listen to Nonis's interview and decide he wanted him as an assistant? We don't.