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Old 05-19-2023, 12:17 AM   #3581
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If I was Bouchard, I'd be like... If Nurse is worth 9.5 to you guys, then I'm not signing for less than 12.
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Old 05-19-2023, 07:01 AM   #3582
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Old 05-19-2023, 08:38 AM   #3583
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$100...where the hell are the Oilers going to get 7.5M
Yep to the $100




If I'm Bouchard/agent, there's no way I'm going to personally pay for the Oilers poor cap management.

Bouchard - RD - 10th pick in 2018 - .48ppg reg season - .93ppg playoffs

At the time of signing contract:
Werenski - LD - 8th pick in 2015 - .56ppg reg season - .45ppg playoffs - $9.583M x 6yrs
McAvoy - RD - 14th pick in 2016 - .48ppg reg season - .49ppg playoffs - $9.500M x 8yrs
Heiskanen - RD - 3rd pick in 2017 - .46ppg reg season - .75ppg playoffs - $8.450M x 8yrs
Chabot - LD - 18th pick in 2015 - .60ppg reg season - N/A playoffs - $8.000M x 8yrs

And of course, while different circumstance since he was a pending UFA (I think?), the Oilers are paying Darnell Nurse $9.250M.
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Old 05-19-2023, 11:08 AM   #3584
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Does Bouchard have arbitration rights, because that's a pretty big hammer based on his points production?
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Old 05-19-2023, 11:11 AM   #3585
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Does Bouchard have arbitration rights, because that's a pretty big hammer based on his points production?
No. Mcleod and Kostin do but not Bouchard.
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Old 05-19-2023, 11:44 AM   #3586
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Yep to the $100




If I'm Bouchard/agent, there's no way I'm going to personally pay for the Oilers poor cap management.

Bouchard - RD - 10th pick in 2018 - .48ppg reg season - .93ppg playoffs

At the time of signing contract:
Werenski - LD - 8th pick in 2015 - .56ppg reg season - .45ppg playoffs - $9.583M x 6yrs
McAvoy - RD - 14th pick in 2016 - .48ppg reg season - .49ppg playoffs - $9.500M x 8yrs
Heiskanen - RD - 3rd pick in 2017 - .46ppg reg season - .75ppg playoffs - $8.450M x 8yrs
Chabot - LD - 18th pick in 2015 - .60ppg reg season - N/A playoffs - $8.000M x 8yrs

And of course, while different circumstance since he was a pending UFA (I think?), the Oilers are paying Darnell Nurse $9.250M.
again you are totally ignoring the team he plays on...I could get 50 on the Oilers power play.

thanks for the $100...there is ZERO chance the Oilers are playing BBomb 7.5+

honestly if they did the $100 would be worth it!

Like where are the Oilers getting 7.5M in cap space?
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Old 05-19-2023, 12:53 PM   #3587
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again you are totally ignoring the team he plays on...I could get 50 on the Oilers power play.

thanks for the $100...there is ZERO chance the Oilers are playing BBomb 7.5+

honestly if they did the $100 would be worth it!

Like where are the Oilers getting 7.5M in cap space?
Ceci to LTIR. Yamamoto traded.
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Old 05-20-2023, 01:04 AM   #3588
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Great recap video the NHL put out. All the ESPN broadcast audio too, so no Singh/DeBrusk.
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Great recap video the NHL put out. All the ESPN broadcast audio too, so no Singh/DeBrusk.

Good decision
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Old 05-20-2023, 02:46 AM   #3590
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The tax burdens aren't that different though. First, you have the "jock tax" that all these guys pay. Basically if you play so many games in a state, there's a tax for those earnings. Then you have other levers like property tax, federal tax and that can even things out. And finally you have all kinds of tax planning and arrangements you can undertake to spread that tax burden out. For example, in Canada you can use things like RCAs (Retirement Compensation Arrangements).

So, without getting into the details here, you can rest assured that a guy like Huberdeau is paying almost the exact same playing here in Calgary as he would in Florida. And, if he's not, he should give me a call, because he's leaving a pile of money on the table.
Yeah, it's kind of over blown, It should be a less than a 3% difference between Alberta and states like Florida, Nevada, Texas and as of this year Tennessee if the players have a little restraint and good accountants.
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Old 05-20-2023, 05:54 AM   #3591
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It would be great if we could find a way to steal Klim Kostin from them. Great young player imo. Potentially a good fit with Kadri as he's got similar style to nichuskin.
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Old 05-20-2023, 06:25 AM   #3592
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again you are totally ignoring the team he plays on...I could get 50 on the Oilers power play.

thanks for the $100...there is ZERO chance the Oilers are playing BBomb 7.5+

honestly if they did the $100 would be worth it!

Like where are the Oilers getting 7.5M in cap space?
That's not to say that another team won't pay him 7.5M or more. Based on draft pedigree and production alone, he's easily worth that.

The Oilers are ripe for offer sheet attacks on their RFA assets.
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Old 05-20-2023, 06:49 AM   #3593
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It would be great if we could find a way to steal Klim Kostin from them. Great young player imo. Potentially a good fit with Kadri as he's got similar style to nichuskin.
Great young player? He is 24 with a career high of 21 points and mediocre AHL stats.

Am I missing something?
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Old 05-20-2023, 07:07 AM   #3594
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Old 05-20-2023, 07:35 AM   #3595
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That's not to say that another team won't pay him 7.5M or more. Based on draft pedigree and production alone, he's easily worth that.

The Oilers are ripe for offer sheet attacks on their RFA assets.
No one offer sheets in the NHL

And you certainly don’t for a player like Bouchard

You would need to pay $8 million and give us a 1-2-3 round picks for a pretty decent PP specialist D
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Old 05-20-2023, 07:47 AM   #3596
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Great young player? He is 24 with a career high of 21 points and mediocre AHL stats.

Am I missing something?
Yes. PPG and limited ice time. If you watch him, he’s definitely got potential.
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Yes. PPG and limited ice time. If you watch him, he’s definitely got potential.
How's that?

All that aside he really does have the size and skills to become a proverbial "power forward" that every team in the league wants to acquire. Agreed the potential exists. So does the Russian factor though.

Those guys take much more time to develop and figure things out. Often not getting there until they are 25-27 years old.

Hard to believe Holland would give up on him right now IMO.
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Yes. PPG and limited ice time. If you watch him, he’s definitely got potential.
PPG?

Potential for what though? The poster said he was a great young player, 24 isn't really young and he seems to maybe have the potential to be a poor 2nd line player at best.

There is nothing about his play, nothing in his background to indicate he is anything more than a run of the mill 4th liner/AHLer.
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Definitely don't want the Oilers to be able to fill the bottem half of their roster with players like Kostin. A great young player is probably a stretch. But solid and capable. I'll take him on the Flames instead

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He would look goodeith Duehr
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