Who do you want to see as next Flames head coach?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Brett Sutter

[FlamesAddiction]

For me, out of this list, it would have to be either Brunette or Love, but leaning to Brunette.

Boudreau shouldn't even be a consideration. He lost control of the Canucks when he was there. The results were good at first, but he went downhill after that. The guy is 68 years old and will be 69 before the mid point next season. Young players nowadays just don't put much stock or trust in older people and their experience. The "ok boomer" generation would tune him out pretty quickly.

Muller and Huska have been here a while and as far as I know, are just as much a part of the problem, so it is hard to pick them either.

[devo22]

for me it's still Love, but I'm warming up to the idea of Brunette too. Huberdeau is going to be a 10.5m player going forward, so getting him going and maximizing his skillset has to be a priority ... him having a 115 point season under Brunette is a pretty good argument, plus he knows Weegar well too obviously. Also seems like a guy who is well respected and has paid his dues as an assistant. I wouldn't be mad at all regarding the staff that Cali Flames Fan has proposed (Brunette as HC, with Love and Huska as assistants).

[P-DAZZLE]

Was there any organizational overlap between Markström and Brunette? I know Brunette didn't become an assistant in Florida until a few years after Markström left, but maybe someone knows he had some other smaller role with the Panthers at that time.

[Angelino]

Originally Posted by BoLevi

Are you saying love would be bad or just that brunette would be better?

Love will be decent but I think Brunette would allow Calgary to reach another level. Not sure if they can afford Brunette though when they are paying Sutter 8 million over two years to farm up in Viking.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So why haven't we heard of them as hot coaching candidates? Even if you don't want the job. Maybe because they suck.

How many "hot coaching candidates" do you really hear about? Most people don't know their own team's coaching staff let alone what coaches are available when coaching positions are open.

You love to blame sutter but somehow his out of touch assistants are amazing?

Never said that. I was correcting your incorrect and incredibly stupid comment about people not getting jobs after working for Sutter or in Calgary. Never spoke to the "quality" of their coaching or whether I liked them. Was responding to an incredibly inaccurate comment that required correction. What was really stupid was you included a guy that never worked in Calgary and retired from the game after coaching in the NHL for 19 seasons, and a head coach for 11 of them.

Nome of those mentioned assistants are are anything they suck. Sutter got thr best out of teams because of his tactics not from the old boys club he hired.

For sucking they have managed to find employment after the fact, which is not what you said. I don't care about assistants because their job duties are directed by the head coach and that is where the buck stops. I certainly don't know what "old boys club" you are talking about, but if one did exist Sutter would certainly be a member of it, no? Seems like another attempt to move the goalposts again in a way to justify an inaccurate post.

[Enoch Root]

wrong thread

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by P-DAZZLE

Was there any organizational overlap between Markström and Brunette? I know Brunette didn't become an assistant in Florida until a few years after Markström left, but maybe someone knows he had some other smaller role with the Panthers at that time.

No connection at all AFAIK.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

How many "hot coaching candidates" do you really hear about? Most people don't know their own team's coaching staff let alone what coaches are available when coaching positions are open.



Never said that. I was correcting your incorrect and incredibly stupid comment about people not getting jobs after working for Sutter or in Calgary. Never spoke to the "quality" of their coaching or whether I liked them. Was responding to an incredibly inaccurate comment that required correction. What was really stupid was you included a guy that never worked in Calgary and retired from the game after coaching in the NHL for 19 seasons, and a head coach for 11 of them.



For sucking they have managed to find employment after the fact, which is not what you said. I don't care about assistants because their job duties are directed by the head coach and that is where the buck stops. I certainly don't know what "old boys club" you are talking about, but if one did exist Sutter would certainly be a member of it, no? Seems like another attempt to move the goalposts again in a way to justify an inaccurate post.

Ok got it.

You are right and the winner sorry.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

? Why can't he bring the Quenville system over here?

I think elite coaches make adjustments.

Guessing because Florida didn't bring him back ... he didn't.

All guessing though. Maybe they saw him more as an assistant coach than a head coach.

I just wouldn't take that one 3/4 season and overvalue it.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think elite coaches make adjustments.

Guessing because Florida didn't bring him back ... he didn't.

All guessing though. Maybe they saw him more as an assistant coach than a head coach.

I just wouldn't take that one 3/4 season and overvalue it.

Yeah, the regular season record is great and all but most people seem to admit that Brunette change every little from Quenneville. Combined with them faltering in the playoffs, it’s really hard to point at something Brunette specifically did that earned him a head coaching job. And, clearly, Florida saw it the same way. I’m sure it would’ve been much easier to keep Brunette, but they chose a veteran coach with a middling record instead.

I don’t know. Brunette could be good, but I don’t know what people see in him as a head coach. It’s more than the Panthers see either way, and they’re up 2-0 in the second round.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I think elite coaches make adjustments.

Guessing because Florida didn't bring him back ... he didn't.

All guessing though. Maybe they saw him more as an assistant coach than a head coach.

I just wouldn't take that one 3/4 season and overvalue it.

Even in the regular season he made some totally baffling decisions, but got away with them because the team basically had three first lines of offensive talent.

I'd rather go for Cail Maclean or Mitch Love. They might not even be as good off the bat but that will keep them humble as they grow into it a la Bednar

[browna]

Huska (and maybe Muller?) will suffer the same thing Playfair did. He was the good guy to Sutter bad guy, but then when the good guy became coach, the players took advantage of that previous relationship, which is why he lasted a year and Sutter, when rejected by ownership of going back behind the bench, brought in Keenan. Ward similar being the good guy under Peters, who let them goof around at practice but then couldn't get through to them when they needed a kick in the behind.

People don't want to hear it, but the Flames have fostered the mentality of players having a big say in the next coach and how the team is run day to day. Inmates run in the asylum if you will, it that sounds too scary to some, buts it's essentially what's going on. All good until the coach starts pushing buttons to try and get players and the team into a different gear.
Last time meant that the team kept Ward after the playoff loss to Dallas and they wasted the next season as result.

Backlund actively campaigning to both remove Sutter, and become captain, pretty much says all you need to know about the similarities here (as Backlund has been a part of all those swings in coaches, after ironically being drafted by Sutter), and makes his comments last offseason (about think of asking for a trade becuase of Sutter and being bumped becuase of Kadri), and throughout this season and on garbage bag day, come into context.

[Flames1217]

Huska should definitely remain with the team. Huska has been in charge of the defence since being promoted and has done a fantastic job so far. If you look at our defensive numbers since he arrived it's almost night and day. If anyone should stay from the previous staff it's Huska.

[Manhattanboy]

Where’s Vigneault today?

[Burning Beard]

Either Love or someone from outside the organization. No to Brunette please. I feel he is over-rated especially after Florida said no thanks and brought in Maurice.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by browna

People don't want to hear it, but the Flames have fostered the mentality of players having a big say in the next coach and how the team is run day to day. Inmates run in the asylum if you will, it that sounds too scary to some, buts it's essentially what's going on. All good until the coach starts pushing buttons to try and get players and the team into a different gear.
Last time meant that the team kept Ward after the playoff loss to Dallas and they wasted the next season as result.

The timing of that always screamed someone turned them down leaving them with little left but to bring back Ward to me.

Hinted it wouldn't take long. Took over a month. Then Ward confirmed the day after Laviolette was hired in Washington.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Burning Beard

Either Love or someone from outside the organization. No to Brunette please. I feel he is over-rated especially after Florida said no thanks and brought in Maurice.

A .720 record as a head coach. And success has followed him to New Jersey. Getting fired by the Panthers doesn't say much since Gallant got the same treatment after successful seasons.

[Burning Beard]

Originally Posted by cannon7

A .720 record as a head coach. And success has followed him to New Jersey. Getting fired by the Panthers doesn't say much since Gallant got the same treatment after successful seasons.

Using Quennevilles system that was already cemented in place.

[The Fisher Account]

Originally Posted by Angelino

Not sure if they can afford Brunette though when they are paying Sutter 8 million over two years to farm up in Viking.

They just got gifted half a billion dollars and their franchise value will inevitably rise by the hundreds of millions of dollars once one shovel is in the ground. They certainly can afford it.