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Old 04-26-2023, 12:14 PM   #9101
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Really though, all the NDP need to do is on day one get rid of this, the no sales tax legislation, the Sovereignty act, and probably 50 other stupid dog whistle waste of money and time pieces of legislation the UCP brought in. Kill it all day one, maybe deal with a day or 2 of fallout, and move on. Leaving handcuffs on yourself to try to wriggle out of in the future isn't wise.

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Old 04-26-2023, 12:35 PM   #9102
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Isn't an election where one party says they will raise taxes, a referendum?
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Old 04-26-2023, 12:43 PM   #9103
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Found on Reddit, but a list of all the terrible things the UCP has done since 2019. With sources.

Copy and pasted list here (without sources):
Spoiler!

Edit: Looks like the Google doc link has waaaay more than the spoilered list.

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86. Set up "snitch line" for Un-Albertan activity

What the actual ####? That's so fascist and freedom-infringing I don't even know what to say.
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:00 PM   #9106
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86. Set up "snitch line" for Un-Albertan activity

What the actual ####? That's so fascist and freedom-infringing I don't even know what to say.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...onal-1.5277846
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Snitch line!! Lol that’s actually hilarious
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:04 PM   #9108
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Snitch line!! Lol that’s actually hilarious
"You have reached the UCP War Room. To report union propagation activities, press 1. To report a dirty hippy loitering around a gas station, press 2..."
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This is monumentally stupid. When oil revenues dry up, how do you propose to make up the shortfall without raising taxes? This is the job of MLAs, to make hard decisions that need to be made.
Cuts to Education, Healthcare, oh, and you'll have to pay for provincial park access of course! No more taxes or Red tape though!
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:39 PM   #9110
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This is a pretty damning report of how Albertans have fared economically under the UCP. Spoiler alert: it hasn't been great. #ableg

https://twitter.com/maxfawcett/statu...889361409?s=21


The Alberta Advantage is melting away:

https://albertacentral.com/insights/...-melting-away/
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:43 PM   #9111
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I don’t think any party cares about spending anymore. Budgets balance themselves
Does this mean that anyone who votes for the UCP now isn’t doing so because they’re fiscally responsible but instead because they support their other let’s just call them shenanigans?
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Old 04-26-2023, 01:48 PM   #9112
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This is the measured response I would expect. Blindly supporting the deal without knowing the details would be dumb.
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Serious question. Smith has forced me to volunteer for the NDP this election.

I live in Calgary Buffalo and pretty sure Joe Ceci is ok with volunteers and his chances at election. Do any of you know any NDP MLA candidates in Calgary who are needing more hands on deck?
Come volunteer in Calgary - Glenmore. https://nagwanalguneid.albertandp.ca/ It's a riding that has a good possibility of swinging and has a solid NDP candidate. We are seeing volunteers from unwinable ridings come and help out, including Ceci this past weekend (although, I think many of the candidates are reciprocating).

Plus, if you join us, I can update my count in the How many CP members have you met? from zero to one. That's a huge increase!

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Hey, don't discount all the posters who are offering up compelling arguments for the arena such as, "shut up and enjoy it." They're about to turn the tide of public opinion. I can really feel it.
Who knows? Maybe they can get help with the religious right getting on board with it?

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How dare Rachel Notley be thoughtful and pragmatic, she should agree to fork over taxpayer dollars without knowing the terms. What a weasel!
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This is monumentally stupid. When oil revenues dry up, how do you propose to make up the shortfall without raising taxes? This is the job of MLAs, to make hard decisions that need to be made.
It's brilliant actually. Opens the door to brining in an HST/PST since that is not a 'personal' tax.
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Old 04-26-2023, 02:24 PM   #9118
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1651308165991129088

So apparently there is a 6 week confidentiality period on the deal(what a coincidence!). Smith has made it an election issue. Notley has called for the details, which may contain additional costs and explanation as to overruns. As an election issue, how are we supposed to decide on it with no information?

I think Notley handled this well, with no info, how can she comment on it?
"If you want a mandate for something, you need to tell people what it is you want a mandate for." ####ing rights you do. Hopefully Smith gets raked over the coals for this, and embarrassed at the debate.

Why can't we get the info before the election is over? What changes between now and then?
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86. Set up "snitch line" for Un-Albertan activity

What the actual ####? That's so fascist and freedom-infringing I don't even know what to say.
Dunno about you, but I'll be using it for slow drivers on Deerfoot.
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Whatever happened to the SoCreds? They turned into the "Pro-Life Alberta Political Association", who are a single issue anti abortion group who uses the fact they are technically a political party to have their supporters get huge tax credits from donations. They have raised more in the last year than any party not named UCP or NDP.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...arty-1.6821605
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