WCQF: Edmonton Oilers [PAC2] vs LA Kings [PAC3] - Oilers Win 4-2

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by AC

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[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1649644498257948672

Nurse is an incredibly expensive pylon. Impressive really.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I dunno, the toe of the stick moves right at the right time for the puck to have hit it... if it didn't that's one hell of an optical illusion.

I mean I'm glad, obviously. Hopefully it happens to them again next game.

From other angles, you can see that Valardi is waving his stick around, the stick movement is almost certainly from that.

There’s a slow mo zoom in replay going around, but I think it’s pretty clear that that video is being slowed down and then being sped up slightly. The change in video speed makes it look like the puck changes direction.

But even from that video, it still looks inconclusive at best. Watching it more and more, it becomes clearer to me that it doesn’t hit the stick.

[Dion]

From HF Oilers

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

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[RoadGame]

The puck also appears to be at the apex of its flight at the point where the orientation of the axis of rotation changes. That seems reasonable as the apex is where the puck's kinetic energy is lowest (having turned a bunch into potential energy) and you've got someone waving at it with a stick, even the air current from a near miss could start it tumbling.

I mean if we had a physicist with lots of time to parse the video frame by frame you might even be able to solve this fairly conclusively with math, but it wouldn't convince the Oiler fans anyway nor would it change the fact they lost.



Still a bit of a fun thought experiment though to consider.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by RoadGame

The puck also appears to be at the apex of its flight at the point where the orientation of the axis of rotation changes. That seems reasonable as the apex is where the puck's kinetic energy is lowest (having turned a bunch into potential energy) and you've got someone waving at it with a stick, even the air current from a near miss could start it tumbling.

I mean if we had a physicist with lots of time to parse the video frame by frame you might even be able to solve this fairly conclusively with math, but it wouldn't convince the Oiler fans anyway nor would it change the fact they lost.

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Still a bit of a fun thought experiment though to consider.

Sounds like we need another SN visual science segment guest featuring Bill Nye.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

From other angles, you can see that Valardi is waving his stick around, the stick movement is almost certainly from that.

There’s a slow mo zoom in replay going around, but I think it’s pretty clear that that video is being slowed down and then being sped up slightly. The change in video speed makes it look like the puck changes direction.

But even from that video, it still looks inconclusive at best. Watching it more and more, it becomes clearer to me that it doesn’t hit the stick.

That was my thought. The slowmo back and forth is making it look like momentum that isn't there. I am more than 50% sure that it didn't hit his stick. Either way, inconclusive is the right call. When you start needing physicists and forensic analysis for a replay, it's inconclusive. Did the Oilers expect to be able to call specialists in and cross-examine all the witnesses?

[Camronius]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

I didn't see the game. But, looking at that replay, I must ask, who touched the puck next? If the puck came down and hit Ekholm in the ass, as looks possible, because the clip is incomplete, then play continues.

As far as "not getting the calls", I would remind Oil fans that, in my 60 years of watching hockey, it seems that the referees often let everything short of mass-murder go in the 3rd period and OT of playoff games. You are just not going to get the same friendly calls...in the playoffs...on the road...game on the line. Living by homer regular season calls is a losing tactic.

That's not how the rule works. The opposing team would have to be in control of the puck, hitting his a$$ doesn't count as control.

Regardless, haha Edmonton!!

[DeluxeMoustache]

I thought it was funny that they took 5 minutes to review and he referred to the ‘missed call’

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

It’s my 29th birthday today. Last year on this day Tkachuk scored #40 and got his 100th point. I’m manifesting an Oilers loss as a birthday gift

Thank you LA

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I thought it was funny that they took 5 minutes to review and he referred to the ‘missed call’

They’re just whining in hopes of getting reffing in their favour in future games.

[Barnet Flame]

What stands out for me is, the almost complete inability amongst the NHL and its fans to understand what the word ‘conclusive’ means.

A passing understanding of the meaning of the word and its place in the rule book makes this an extremely easy and uncontentious call to make.

By any measure, the call on the ice has to stand.

We have a good goal.

[PaperBagger'14]

As much as I hate to say it, I actually changed my mind and i think it should have been called a high stick. It really looks like the puck hits the blade of the stick. See the link below.

What's most important now is that we all find a way to laugh at the Oilers as much as possible, whether you think there was contact or not. Them losing the series on a blown call would just be the best.


https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comm...puck_rotation/

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

As much as I hate to say it, I actually changed my mind and i think it should have been called a high stick. It really looks like the puck hits the blade of the stick. See the link below.

What's most important now is that we all find a way to laugh at the Oilers as much as possible, whether you think there was contact or not. Them losing the series on a blown call would just be the best.


https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/comm...puck_rotation/

You are correct. The fact it changed direction makes it pretty obvious that it hit the stick. Who knows if that was available to the replay judges though.

Edit: looking at the full reply, I am not so sure the puck changed direction because it hit the stick, or simply that it appears to change direction because the stick moves in the opposite direction. The video simply showing the stick and puck has no context of anything else.

If you look at the bar in the glass behind it, the puck does not really change direction, it goes virtually straight down. The movement of the stick gives the illusion of the puck changing direction.

So I still have some doubt, which makes it not conclusive to me.

[red sky]

I see a gold dress?

[Hockey-and_stuff]

The Oilers org and media are the only ones who claim their players have some special authority that the league should honor becuase they're good players.

Stauffer whining that 2019 MVP Draisaital should have got that unsportsmanlike call.

Woodcroft stating multiple times that McDavid is the best player in the world therefore his interpretation is the correct one.

Fools, all of them. No good.

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[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by CedarMeter

Man that Stauffer is embarrassing. He’s going to give himself a heart attack.

You have to consider the time of day this is happening, he’s probably 3/4 of a jar in already.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Now just wait for the Oiler apologists to complain about this for the next two days.

To be fair, they do that after literally every L. Such a whiny fanbase..

[SuperMatt18]

The biggest thing to me with that all too is even if it was a high stick it really has no impact on the goal being scored, the puck hits Ekholm in the back and then he attempts to play it, and he gives it away.

They are acting like it was high sticked directly into the net.