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Old 04-16-2023, 06:57 PM   #5901
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Not sure how people who hate Trudeau as much as some do, who know everything about him can be so ignorant to the fact he routinely faces unvetted questions from the average voter all the time as PM during his town halls.
I admire your naivety. These are most certainly all nerf ball pre arranged sit downs. With strict instructions given to the hand picked vetted questions takers.

If it were a true town hall meeting I would suggest it would be difficult for him to exit out of the back door.
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Old 04-16-2023, 07:10 PM   #5902
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I admire your naivety. These are most certainly all nerf ball pre arranged sit downs. With strict instructions given to the hand picked vetted questions takers.

If it were a true town hall meeting I would suggest it would be difficult for him to exit out of the back door.
You should go to one, experience it for yourself, and be proven wrong. The last sentence is pure on the internet too much.
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Old 04-16-2023, 07:23 PM   #5903
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Despite you reiterating that claim in your follow-up post, you definitely meant it desparingingly, perhaps abelit unconsciously. Saying this means that his only skill is the ability to memorize lines, and his only talent was to teach others how to memorize lines.

There's a reason that the best and brightest at any particular task or knowledge set aren't automatically the best at teaching. Gretzky was an unmitigated failure as a coach. It takes strength in many diverse characteristics to impart skill and knowledge to others, and in order to become and be successful as a teacher you need to demonstrate compassion, understanding, flexibility, empathy, communication, and a whole list of other things beyond the subject matter.

That statement is unequivocally disrespectful, no matter how you intended it.



I always appreciated his comments after Gord Downie's passing.



Sure, you can say that we knew for a while what was coming. Even if we did, think about how taken aback, as a fan (if you were one), you were when it happenned? How taken aback would a friend be? Trudeau, by all appearances, was both to Downie. Preparation falls away. In that clip he seemed very genuine and eloquent despite the situation.



You've done an effective job of summarizing the personality and rhetorical capabilities of pretty well every modern politician. If Obama is your bar then you have unrealistic expectations as that man was and remains outside of his time. We've now devolved into the dichotomy of one side pounding buzz words and dogwhistles, while the other tries to be as vanilla as possible in a lame attempt to stay above the fray.

Besides, I've never understood the value placed on a politician's, or anyone's really, ability to react on their feet deftly as if they were in an Aaron Sorkin political drama. If I sputtered out my initial thoughts to your response in real time it wouldn't have been this measured and composed. We have the benefit of a message forum, but even in the real world I have far greater appreciation for someone that takes the time to give me a thoughtful response.
Alright, fair enough. As I said, I didnt mean to be disrespectful, but we're not going to agree on Trudeau.

At the end of the day though, can we at least agree that thankfully he slapped down some anti-abortion lunatic?

We probably need to raise the voting age.
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Old 04-16-2023, 07:42 PM   #5904
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Old 04-16-2023, 08:39 PM   #5905
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Usually security for the PM has been keeping people from yelling unvetted questions at the PM.

It was shot perfectly, The Liberals within minutes of the release were firing out prochoice social media and their MP's were firing out their messages.
It was shot perfectly right over the shoulder not showing the young mans face, but Trudeau was perfectly framed.

Who knows? Telford is incredibly slick as a political operator. From a campaign and organization the conservatives are really lacking someone like her with her ruthlessness.

Its a nice distraction from the poop show that's hitting the Liberals right now.

I'm not saying its for sure some kind of Liberal black smoke trick. But I really wouldn't put it past them.


I'd like to see the press trying to track the kid down, usually they are intensely good at things like that.
You’ve been leaning pretty hard into the pseudo-conspiracy type of opinion usually peddled by twitter users with Canadian flags in their display name and fat runs of numbers in their handle lately. First with the “Trudeau wants to murder children” thing and now this little “the framing was too perfect, black smoke!” conspiracy thing.

You OK? When you’re on the same wavelength as guys like Yoho, 2Stoned, and Azure it’s probably a good time to check in.
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You’ve been leaning pretty hard into the pseudo-conspiracy type of opinion usually peddled by twitter users with Canadian flags in their display name and fat runs of numbers in their handle lately. First with the “Trudeau wants to murder children” thing and now this little “the framing was too perfect, black smoke!” conspiracy thing.



You OK? When you’re on the same wavelength as guys like Yoho, 2Stoned, and Azure it’s probably a good time to check in.
We probably need to lower the voting age.

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We probably need to lower the voting age.

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Yeah, originally I was thinking cutting voting off at retirement, but given the state of the older generations we should probably cut it off at 50 to be safe.
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Is that supposed to be some sort of 'gotcha'? It's common knowledge.

What a weird thing to celebrate.
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Is that supposed to be some sort of 'gotcha'? It's common knowledge.

What a weird thing to celebrate.
The news of it just came out yesterday. Take it however you wish.
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The news of it just came out yesterday. Take it however you wish.
Right, and as people who know it’s common knowledge, it’s being taken as a weird thing to celebrate. What are you struggling with?

How dumb do people like Morgan and his followers have to be to wrap half their identity into “defund the CBC” and then act like CBC being government funded is some revelation?
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Bahahahh “the news of it”. It’s in the ####ing name. It’s a publicly funded service… there is no way this wasn’t known by everyone already. I feel like I’m in a twilight zone episode.

It’s why they couldn’t afford to buy their own hockey night song. The news of it…
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Bahahahh “the news of it”. It’s in the ####ing name. It’s a publicly funded service… there is no way this wasn’t known by everyone already. I feel like I’m in a twilight zone episode.

It’s why they couldn’t afford to buy their own hockey night song. The news of it…
Waiting for people to absolutely lose their mind once twitter identifies PBS as being funded by “viewers like you.”
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They should have funding and ownership added to every media company profile. That would be a good thing. The implication that private media companies are somehow less biased or more trustworthy because they don't have a label about their funding is more misleading than anything.
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Meanwhile, the Western Standard has been flagged as "Bull#### by bigots, for bigots".
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Waiting for people to absolutely lose their mind once twitter identifies PBS as being funded by “viewers like you.”
I think Twitter has identified PBS as Government Funded.
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Bahahahh “the news of it”. It’s in the ####ing name. It’s a publicly funded service… there is no way this wasn’t known by everyone already. I feel like I’m in a twilight zone episode.

It’s why they couldn’t afford to buy their own hockey night song. The news of it…
Twitter only attaches that label to news organizations whose reporting and content are considered to be heavily influenced by government. The label is Twitter's way of telling its users that CBC's reporting is biased and untrustworthy.

Of course, privately owned news organizations do not receive any sort of label, despite their reporting and content being clearly influenced by their generally ultra-rich, right-wing ownership.

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Twitter only attaches that label to news organizations whose reporting and content are considered to be heavily influenced by government. The label is Twitter's way of telling its users that CBC's reporting is biased and untrustworthy.

Of course, privately owned news organizations do not receive any sort of label, despite their reporting and content being clearly influenced by their generally ultra-rich, right-wing ownership.
They use the “state-affiliated” label for that, not “government funded.”

Of course, we already know that labels and verification have both repeatedly been decided based on the subjective whims of Twitter’s owner, so it’s not like Twitter’s attachment of any of these things actually means anything.
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Twitter only attaches that label to news organizations whose reporting and content are considered to be heavily influenced by government. The label is Twitter's way of telling its users that CBC's reporting is biased and untrustworthy.

Of course, privately owned news organizations do not receive any sort of label, despite their reporting and content being clearly influenced by their generally ultra-rich, right-wing ownership.
Definitely says what Musk think of - and how much distain they have - for NPR.

Notice I didn't say Twitter, because I truly believe there are people inside that company trying to mitigate the crazy and truly care.
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