[Signing] Flames sign Kadri (7 years, $7m AAV)

[bigrangy]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

I feel like is Brouwer/Neal v3 but whatever.

Conference finals this year or bust.

Everything is so predictable with this team

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

My biggest regret in my relationship is asking my girlfriend for a Blasty Kadri jersey this past Christmas

I stripped my Chucky and Johnny, just glad I waited before putting Kadri or Huby on them.

[jharp]

He must be sick or something similar. Either way, I can’t believe he kept getting more and more ice as the game progressed.

[Winsor_Pilates]

I liked Kadri early in the season but it was always going to be a bad contract given term and age.

Much like all of our big contracts, they're designed to be front loaded for performance and suck later on.
We're just not getting the good years expected either, so they're all complete suck.

We may have the worst roster & contract situation in the league.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I liked Kadri early in the season but it was always going to be a bad contract given term and age.

Much like all of our big contracts, they're designed to be front loaded for performance and suck later on.
We're just not getting the good years expected either, so they're all complete suck.

We may have the worst roster & contract situation in the league.

And it all came from the moves made this past offseason.

I can understand the Huberdeau and Weegar signings, seeing as they have proven to be elite players in the past, but trading a 1st to sign a 32yo 2nd line C to 7 years for just as much AAV as any other Flames player has been paid ever is insane.

Iggy, Tkachuk and Kadri are currently the only players to be paid $7+ mill AAV. Huberdeau blows that out of the water next season.

Fight tooth and nail in negotiations with every single player we’ve developed within the organization just to hand over the 3 richest contracts ever given out by the organization to guys who had never even put the jersey on before.

It’s absolute insanity when you stop and actually process that fact.

[Strange Brew]

Against my better judgment, I am going to pile on here. Because that was a disgrace of an effort.

But you know what bugs me? Our GM gets a lot of credit for being a stable hand and learning from his mistakes. Really? Perhaps his biggest mistake is winning bidding wars for high priced, old UFA's.

Out of the gates he needlessly signs Mason Raymond for three years when a short term deal would have done. He is forced to buy him out.
So then what? He signs Brouwer for four years! Buys him out after two years.
So then what does he do? He signs James Neal for 5 years!! Wants to buy him out after a year, ownership doesn't let him so he is forced to trade him for quite possibly the biggest boat anchor contract in the league.
A year before that contract is off the books, he wins the bidding war for 32 year old Nazem Kadri coming off a career, outlier season, signing him for 7 years!! Losing a first round pick in the process.

The mistakes just get more and more costly. Each player is progressively older, signed for more dollars and more term. And each one signed after a career season or in most cases, a value inflating playoff run.

He has had some good signings mixed in but there is an obvious pattern here.

Hopefully Kadri is enough of a competitor that he commits to turning things around next year.

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Against my better judgment, I am going to pile on here. Because that was a disgrace of an effort.

But you know what bugs me? Our GM gets a lot of credit for being a stable hand and learning from his mistakes. Really? Perhaps his biggest mistake is winning bidding wars for high priced, old UFA's.

Out of the gates he needlessly signs Mason Raymond for three years when a short term deal would have done. He is forced to buy him out.
So then what? He signs Brouwer for four years! Buys him out after two years.
So then what does he do? He signs James Neal for 5 years!! Wants to buy him out after a year, ownership doesn't let him so he is forced to trade him for quite possibly the biggest boat anchor contract in the league.
A year before that contract is off the books, he wins the bidding war for 32 year old Nazem Kadri coming off a career, outlier season, signing him for 7 years!! Losing a first round pick in the process.

The mistakes just get more and more costly. Each player is progressively older, signed for more dollars and more term. And each one signed after a career season or in most cases, a value inflating playoff run.

He has had some good signings mixed in but there is an obvious pattern here.

Hopefully Kadri is enough of a competitor that he commits to turning things around next year.

Those are the 4 contracts I also have as being massive misses for Tre and I honestly didn’t like any of them the day they were announced.

There are so many things I like about Tre but he really has continually set us back with those moves, the last two especially.

[Jason14h]

You can add in Coleman . While not a bad player , he certainly hasnt been overly impactful. Not a bad signing but another example of “winning” the bidding war for a player who will be playing out the declining seasons of their career over the deals life

[tvp2003]

Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure Kadri has 0 suspensions and 0 fines this year. Just in case there was any question about whether he’s mailed it in with that big contract.

If only he played with 10% of the effort that he did at the start of the year (when he was our best forward) — at least he’d be invisible instead of noticeably bad and turning over pucks that end up in our net.

What a veteran leader this guy is.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

Those are the 4 contracts I also have as being massive misses for Tre and I honestly didn’t like any of them the day they were announced.

There are so many things I like about Tre but he really has continually set us back with those moves, the last two especially.

He does seem very stubborn about this part of his approach. He keeps betting bigger and bigger, convinced that the next one will pay off.

[DeluxeMoustache]

He seemed pretty clutch in the playoffs

This year, if you need a guy to fall down, go offside, or turn the puck over leading to a goal against, he’s your guy

####, he has been awful this year

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

You can add in Coleman . While not a bad player , he certainly hasnt been overly impactful. Not a bad signing but another example of “winning” the bidding war for a player who will be playing out the declining seasons of their career over the deals life

Always overpaying for playoff veterans

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

He seemed pretty clutch in the playoffs

This year, if you need a guy to fall down, go offside, or turn the puck over leading to a goal against, he’s your guy

####, he has been awful this year

Too many players on retirement contracts, that aren't going to go the extra mile consistently enough. It's not a functional way to build a team - we as fans all know it, yet we clamor when the GM goes out and outbids everyone to land the next shiny toy every year. Sure it's easy to look back and question it now, but I'm going to do it anyway.

Signing 3 high profile, older players, who have had no experience in the city, system or playing with the team to retirement contracts in a single offseason is just absolutely bonkers for a team with significant playoff aspirations. It has certainly not all been their fault, but the 2 forwards have not fit in at all, and have certainly not provided the consistent effort or production required. This team needs a purge from top to bottom as it has completely gotten itself off the tracks, and I don't see any way back with the current management and staff.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by redmile04

lol

That's offside.

Kadri had a good start, and was amazing in the off season with the cup. People look up to him.

He had a tough season, and it might be a bad contract, but that's on the player, and certainly not on someone with some hope that believed in him a few months ago.

Terrible form to go back and have a chuckle at someone's expense.

[BagoPucks]

Kadri needs to go back to fundamentals. He is putting too much on himself and too in his head. Just be a player again. Work hard, start, stop, keep it simple and skate hard. The game will turn around once he stops chasing it. The flip side of it is that if he is fatigued, he needs to rest. Sitting for a game wont be the worst thing.

[Vinny01]

The summer of Brad did not age well that is for sure. I like the moves he made at the ti e but we all have to remember how fragile and hurt we all were with the Gaudreau and Tkachuk decisions. Acquiring Huberdeau, Weegar, and Kadri and getting them to all agree to max term deals felt good after being left at the alter by Gaudreau then swiftly dumped by Tkachuk right after. Sober thoughts in hindsight really paint the picture that those were knee jerk reactions that could handcuff this team for the next 5-8 years

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

You can add in Coleman . While not a bad player , he certainly hasnt been overly impactful. Not a bad signing but another example of “winning” the bidding war for a player who will be playing out the declining seasons of their career over the deals life

Don't agree on Coleman at all.

I wish we had three of them.

[Erick Estrada]

I give Kadri and Huberdeau a bit of a pass this season. It's clear that joining the Flames was a bit if a culture shock for the both of them and it's been difficult for both of them to adapt to a new team, city, and old style head coach. I point the finger at holdover guys like Markstrom who have less excuses for being flat out bad this season and then you have players like Mangiapane and Lindholm who have not been nearly as impactful offensively both scoring half the goals they scored the year prior.

[I_H8_Crawford]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I give Kadri and Huberdeau a bit of a pass this season. It's clear that joining the Flames was a bit if a culture shock for the both of them and it's been difficult for both of them to adapt to a new team, city, and old style head coach. I point the finger at holdover guys like Markstrom who have less excuses for being flat out bad this season.

Flames would be in a better spot with Berra, Rittich, Smith, Elliott, etc.

Really, Markstrom is placing his mark as historically bad this year in the Flames goaltending annums.

Just awful, and I blame the failure of a season this year on him.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Don't agree on Coleman at all.

I wish we had three of them.

I am not sure a team can afford $15M of the cap on left shot wingers on the 2nd/3rd line who have yet to hit 40pts in their career signed until their mid-30’s.

Coleman’s at their salary are fine to have when you have multiple players punching above their weight class with sweetheart deals or ELC’s. The flames have sweetheart deals like Lindholm, Toffoli, Andersson, Hanifin that are almost all of expiring soon (3 in the next year) so Coleman becomes a bit of a problem with his cap hit and middle 6 production. Especially now that the team has some massive overpays in the form of Kadri and Hubderdeau who will be unlikely to ever live up to their current cap hits.