04-03-2023, 08:56 PM
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#381
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
He’s had a few opportunities with guys in scoring position and he hasn’t had an aggressive enough approach IMO. There are certain guys where working a walk is a win and Guerrero isn’t really one of them.
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That's kinda fair, as a couple pitches were close. It's a long season though, and you'd hope he's just building a good eye. He could chase a bit but that would bring bad habits, so I'm pleased to see him take one. Like others said, you have to have a good bat following up behind him. I like Kirk high up, but he looks a bit heavier this year.
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04-03-2023, 09:00 PM
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#382
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Franchise Player
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How many base runners have they had tonight? This game was actually there for the taking
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04-03-2023, 09:01 PM
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#383
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
He’s had a few opportunities with guys in scoring position this season and he hasn’t had an aggressive enough approach IMO. There are certain guys where working a walk is a win and Guerrero isn’t really one of them.
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Yeah, and I think you're referring to a specific at bat in St Louis. And I don't disagree with your point.
However, he had a tendency to chase last year, and he needs to show the league that he is going to be more selective.
Baseball is very much about playing the long game
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04-03-2023, 09:01 PM
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#384
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Swapping Bichette and Varsho in the order makes so much sense. I don’t know if they’ll do it but I hope they’d consider it. Varsho isn’t a contact hitter and while he had 27 home runs, he isn’t really a traditional bopper.
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04-03-2023, 09:03 PM
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#385
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Bigger problem than Vladdy walking with runners on base is guys having unproductive outs with runners on base, like Springer just did.
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04-03-2023, 09:04 PM
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#386
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc
Swapping Bichette and Varsho in the order makes so much sense. I don’t know if they’ll do it but I hope they’d consider it. Varsho isn’t a contact hitter and while he had 27 home runs, he isn’t really a traditional bopper.
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He also has pressure on him, having just signed a nice contract - I don't think it's fair to have him batting 4th right now. Kirk is a smart hitter and could be 4th. Or switch Bo and Vladdy, as you said
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04-03-2023, 09:12 PM
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#387
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Finally. The dam breaks.
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04-03-2023, 09:14 PM
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#388
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Franchise Player
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So if Springer had gotten aboard, and then Bo does that, it's what? 9-8?
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04-03-2023, 09:18 PM
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#389
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Very underwhelming game.
Don't want this to snowball. Need Kikuchi to have a good outing and the bats to gets going tomorrow night to stop the bleeding.
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04-03-2023, 09:34 PM
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#390
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Can’t believe I’m excited for a Kikuchi start, but after this hot garbage to start the season he literally can’t be worse.
Hope that awesome spring translates to some real results. We need him
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04-03-2023, 09:49 PM
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#391
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
Can’t believe I’m excited for a Kikuchi start, but after this hot garbage to start the season he literally can’t be worse.
Hope that awesome spring translates to some real results. We need him
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I'm sure tomorrow's the day they get their break.
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04-04-2023, 12:39 AM
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#392
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by Jiggy_12
Can’t believe I’m excited for a Kikuchi start, but after this hot garbage to start the season he literally can’t be worse.
Hope that awesome spring translates to some real results. We need him
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Kikuchi will pitch a perfect game tomorrow, just watch.
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04-04-2023, 10:23 AM
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#394
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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One of my buddies keeps saying the Jays need to trade Vladdy for arms
Another one says it's Vladdy's last year anyways
I say Vladdy isn't going anywhere cuz no teams can even talk to him until 2026, correct?
Now that being said is a trade something that could happen with Vladdy? How would a trade involving him work?
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04-04-2023, 10:51 AM
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#395
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by Inferno
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At first I rolled my eyes when I seen Verdugo. Don’t like the guy at all. But I read it and tend to agree with what he was saying. In Dominican and stuff it’s all about celebration and aggravating the opponent so times are kinda changing. I understand if he doesn’t like it but we are seeing more personalities. Especially in the NL.
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04-04-2023, 10:53 AM
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#396
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
One of my buddies keeps saying the Jays need to trade Vladdy for arms
Another one says it's Vladdy's last year anyways
I say Vladdy isn't going anywhere cuz no teams can even talk to him until 2026, correct?
Now that being said is a trade something that could happen with Vladdy? How would a trade involving him work?
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Problem with dealing Vlad is he’s the best chance player of playing his whole career here as he was more or less raised in Canada. If there’s something the Jays see in his long term projection and they need to deal him they could get a haul. But they don’t need to deal a franchise talent for just pitching. They could’ve just signed pitching this off-season.
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04-04-2023, 11:02 AM
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#397
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pitt Meadows
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Originally Posted by bluejays
Problem with dealing Vlad is he’s the best chance player of playing his whole career here as he was more or less raised in Canada. If there’s something the Jays see in his long term projection and they need to deal him they could get a haul. But they don’t need to deal a franchise talent for just pitching. They could’ve just signed pitching this off-season.
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The one guy keeps trying to tell me that no way Jays will buck up to pay Vladdy what he deserves to get paid.
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04-04-2023, 11:19 AM
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#398
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey
The one guy keeps trying to tell me that no way Jays will buck up to pay Vladdy what he deserves to get paid.
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That’s an issue for 3 years from now
Zero chance the Jays trade Vladdy , especially for an arm
We have signed 4 SPs (5 if including Ryu) to big money deals to fill out the rotation . It is what it is
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04-04-2023, 04:05 PM
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#399
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Hockey
The one guy keeps trying to tell me that no way Jays will buck up to pay Vladdy what he deserves to get paid.
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I think they will, but we'll see.
As for trading him, the problem I have with that is that he has unlimited upside. I don't like trading guys that have tons of untapped potential, because the guys you get back probably don't have that same upside.
Vladdy will win some batting titles in the years ahead. Why on earth would people want to trade him? Fans can be so impatient.
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04-04-2023, 04:06 PM
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#400
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason14h
That’s an issue for 3 years from now
Zero chance the Jays trade Vladdy , especially for an arm
We have signed 4 SPs (5 if including Ryu) to big money deals to fill out the rotation . It is what it is
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Yup. And if they keep failing at that, then it's time to replace the scouts or the pitching coaches (or both).
But the answer is definitely not to trade your best player for more arms.
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