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Old 03-27-2023, 06:54 PM   #341
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I know Andersson is being sincere but the part "it's in my family" made it sound like a disease.
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NHL fan singing national anthem, honouring soldier with standing ovation thinks Pride Nights are too political

https://thebeaverton.com/2023/03/nhl...too-political/
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:26 PM   #343
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Please provide me with a list of athletes that have changed sexes to win.
Well, just look at that Bruce Jenner fella. He won and then...uh... I may be doing this wrong,
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:33 PM   #344
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Loved that new jersey. I wish it was available to fans. I also think it would look even better on that Blasty alternate dark jersey. I think they'd make good coin with this design on a whole line of merchandise- hats, t-shirts, hoodies, etc.
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Old 03-27-2023, 09:51 PM   #345
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Flaming C , hehe that makes me smile and think of George Takei hearing about it



Love it

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That logo is so good

Taking the existing red in the C and gradually easing it all the way to purple with pink, green, and blue used in conjunction with Alberta-ey things? It’s so well done
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I know Andersson is being sincere but the part "it's in my family" made it sound like a disease.
Hahaha…I definitely attribute that to him being a non-native English speaker.

Full credit to Andersson for personalizing the message. He didn’t fall back on boilerplate but instead spoke with passion. He’s a leader and wants to build a team that isn’t just good on the ice but one that is good off of it too. I’m very proud to have him on the team.

If I was a gay NHL player, he’d probably be one of the first guys that I’d be open with.

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Old 03-27-2023, 10:35 PM   #348
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Ras is a good guy but man he looked awful against SJ.

Need him to be marvellous against LA.
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Old 03-28-2023, 12:52 AM   #349
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If I were a NHL player, I personally would not want to be forced to wear a pride jersey due to personal reasons.

I believe the collective message of inclusivity by the NHL (which I am for) can be expressed in other ways. Have pride symbols in the concourse, in the stands, on the pucks, painted on the ice, or along the hockey boards.

It just goes too far when a pride jersey is being forcefully mandated on someone's own back. That strikes me as an intrusion to one's personal identity & thought.
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If I were a NHL player, I personally would not want to be forced to wear a pride jersey due to personal reasons.

I believe the collective message of inclusivity by the NHL (which I am for) can be expressed in other ways. Have pride symbols in the concourse, in the stands, on the pucks, painted on the ice, or along the hockey boards.

It just goes too far when a pride jersey is being forcefully mandated on someone's own back. That strikes me as an intrusion to one's personal identity & thought.
I agree with your sentiment that no one should feel forced to wear it. But the players are not being forced...that's why some are opting out around the league. And I hope most people are mature enough to fully support every player's right to make that decision for themselves.

I actually think the voluntary aspect of participation in pride makes the message substantially stronger. If something's optional and you get 95% of people participating, I think thats a lot more genuine and authentic a statement than forcing 100% compliance. The NHL isn't celebrating pride because they feel obligated to. They're doing it because the vast majority of people in the organizations - including the players - genuinely want to. I think that's a wonderful reflection of social inclusion.

How do you feel knowing that while it's optional, every single player on the flames wants to do it anyways? That even though they could have opted out, they wanted to go ahead with it. To me, that's makes it substantially more meaningful
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Old 03-28-2023, 05:42 AM   #351
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Hope the Flames boycott the jersey now. Chickadees after they already stole the election? Keep this politics free!
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Old 03-28-2023, 08:20 AM   #352
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Thats insanely hideous. Looks like something that would have been on my grandparents table cloth, in the 80s.

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Old 03-28-2023, 08:21 AM   #353
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Thats insanely hideous. Looks like something that would have been on my grandparents table cloth, in the 80s.

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Oh, and the logo is ugly too

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Old 03-28-2023, 08:30 AM   #354
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I agree with your sentiment that no one should feel forced to wear it. But the players are not being forced...that's why some are opting out around the league. And I hope most people are mature enough to fully support every player's right to make that decision for themselves.

I actually think the voluntary aspect of participation in pride makes the message substantially stronger. If something's optional and you get 95% of people participating, I think thats a lot more genuine and authentic a statement than forcing 100% compliance. The NHL isn't celebrating pride because they feel obligated to. They're doing it because the vast majority of people in the organizations - including the players - genuinely want to. I think that's a wonderful reflection of social inclusion.

How do you feel knowing that while it's optional, every single player on the flames wants to do it anyways? That even though they could have opted out, they wanted to go ahead with it. To me, that's makes it substantially more meaningful
Don't think for a second that it's truly optional. It's as options as getting the vaccine were, and look how that worked out. This is bullying, no matter what you say.

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Old 03-28-2023, 08:32 AM   #355
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lol here we go

The logo is ugly, the colours are ugly, our pets heads are falling off!!
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Old 03-28-2023, 08:34 AM   #356
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If I were a NHL player, I personally would not want to be forced to wear a pride jersey due to personal reasons.

I believe the collective message of inclusivity by the NHL (which I am for) can be expressed in other ways. Have pride symbols in the concourse, in the stands, on the pucks, painted on the ice, or along the hockey boards.

It just goes too far when a pride jersey is being forcefully mandated on someone's own back. That strikes me as an intrusion to one's personal identity & thought.
People come to see NHLers. They don't come to see the concourse, stands, pucks, ice or boards. They come to see the NHLers.

If a young LGBT person who potentially feels unwelcome by his family or friends goes to NHL Pride Night and sees his favorite NHL player refuse to wear the jersey, how do you think that person might feel? Despite the rest of the arena being decked out in pride like you suggest?

I'm sure freaking happy that player exercised his free speech rights, right? Not.
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Don't think for a second that it's truly optional. It's as options as getting the vaccine were, and look how that worked out. This is bullying, no matter what you say.

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I just want to distance my opinion on the actual jersey/logo from takes like this. I have other Flames Pride things and I 100% support Pride and everything around it. Frankly, a couple of my friends have debated bidding on a jersey to gift me because they know I don't like these actual jerseys, despite being 100% supportive of Pride and LGBTQ issues in general.

I know, no one here has lambasted me for not liking the jersey, but I just feel like I want to be crystal clear that my opinion is on the actual jersey and nothing to do with the cause or other positions that might be somewhat linked!
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Old 03-28-2023, 08:49 AM   #358
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Not a big fan of the jersey itself looks wise, but not sure how worked up people can get when it is only worn for a warm up as far as I understand it. Even if it were worn for the entire game, I don't cheer for this team based on how the jersey looks. Fully support the message behind it and people/players getting bent out of shape for putting one on for a little warm up is ridiculous.
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I just want to distance my opinion on the actual jersey/logo from takes like this. I have other Flames Pride things and I 100% support Pride and everything around it. Frankly, a couple of my friends have debated bidding on a jersey to gift me because they know I don't like these actual jerseys, despite being 100% supportive of Pride and LGBTQ issues in general.

I know, no one here has lambasted me for not liking the jersey, but I just feel like I want to be crystal clear that my opinion is on the actual jersey and nothing to do with the cause or other positions that might be somewhat linked!
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Old 03-28-2023, 08:54 AM   #360
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I love it. It's unique and not the token "paint our logo in rainbow colours" that most end up being.
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