03-12-2023, 12:03 PM
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#41
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Bingo
They roll the roster over as quickly as anyone. They've had 5 head coaches in 7 seasons as well.
By record they have been a middle of the pack team since Treliving came in, but on a crazy on / off rotation.
Plenty of teams with more success. Plenty of teams with less.
But if you want to believe it's worse than it is ... go for it!
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Treliving makes more changes than most teams. He is a hard working GM. He makes good trades
Somehow team remains mediocre though.
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03-12-2023, 12:09 PM
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#43
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Let’s get all the 4th round picks
I see a bunch of Johnny
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I have a feeling it’ll be a long time before we get a line driver and puck handler on the Flames like what Johnny Gaudreau was able to do while here. Be it the current roster, prospects, trade or draft.
Tonight’s game will interesting and I’ll still watch. Two teams which are essentially on the same quality level trying to stay in a playoff race.
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03-12-2023, 12:12 PM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by soulchoice
I have a feeling it’ll be a long time before we get a line driver and puck handler on the Flames like what Johnny Gaudreau was able to do while here. Be it the current roster, prospects, trade or draft.
Tonight’s game will interesting and I’ll still watch. Two teams which are essentially on the same quality level trying to stay in a playoff race.
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Yeah most midgets aka Phillips don’t go pass the AHL
We were very fortunate with Johnny and somehow wasted it
He was entertaining though. Probably the most entertaining player I’ve watched in over 30 yrs of watching the Flames
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03-12-2023, 12:13 PM
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#45
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Let’s get all the 4th round picks
I see a bunch of Johnny
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Yeah that's what I meant.
I get that you live for days like this, but not all of us wallow in grief.
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03-12-2023, 12:16 PM
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#46
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Yeah that's what I meant.
I get that you live for days like this, but not all of us wallow in grief.
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Nobody wants pain but some are louder when they are hurt
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03-12-2023, 12:17 PM
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#47
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Originally Posted by Cheese
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Oilers with the 2nd highest odds in the NHL to win the cup. Yeah, ok. 
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03-12-2023, 12:18 PM
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#48
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Treliving makes more changes than most teams. He is a hard working GM. He makes good trades
Somehow team remains mediocre though.
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Cap efficiency (signings and extensions), development and drafting are all more important than trades (in that order, imo).
Trades are important as they pertain to asset management.
Coaching hires matter as well. Not just the head coach but the supporting staff.
With that said, if the Flames had one of (a) good coaching or (b) good goaltending, they would likely be a playoff team or even a contender this year.
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03-12-2023, 12:19 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mathgod
Oilers with the 2nd highest odds in the NHL to win the cup. Yeah, ok. |
They’ve got a cup final appearance handed to them on a silver platter. Every other team in the west is awful this year. They’re just merely not horrible. Like they wouldn’t even be a playoff team most years but the west is absolute #### right now.
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03-12-2023, 12:26 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bigrangy
They’ve got a cup final appearance handed to them on a silver platter. Every other team in the west is awful this year. They’re just merely not horrible. Like they wouldn’t even be a playoff team most years but the west is absolute #### right now.
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Looking at teams' last 20 games points %...
Kings .725
Wild .725
Knights .700
Avalanche .675
Stars .650
Oilers .625
Preds .625
The west isn't nearly as bad as you think it is.
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03-12-2023, 12:27 PM
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#51
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Dallas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1qqaaz
Cap efficiency (signings and extensions), development and drafting are all more important than trades (in that order, imo).
Trades are important as they pertain to asset management.
Coaching hires matter as well. Not just the head coach but the supporting staff.
With that said, if the Flames had one of (a) good coaching or (b) good goaltending, they would likely be a playoff team or even a contender this year.
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For a big chunk of time the team drafted well enough, the problem is the inability to identify cheap NHL talents to fill out the roster and wasted valuable resources on garbage like Neal, Hamonic and Brouwer.
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03-12-2023, 12:44 PM
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#52
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Nobody wants pain but some are louder when they are hurt
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And some actually enjoy it clearly.
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03-12-2023, 12:48 PM
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#53
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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I'll always enjoy a win, no matter what. But to be honest, I don't sweat the losses anymore either and wins have gone from being amazingly joyful and are more just pleasant surprises at this point. Losses have gone from being devastating, to just meh, whatever.
I guess the reality of where the team sits has just disengaged me somewhat.
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03-12-2023, 01:02 PM
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#54
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: 福岡市
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Call it faint hope or pure ignorance (it is bliss, after all...) But I still hope they win and win most their remaining games. Perhaps this underachieving regular season team comes together and rips it up in the post season, a reverse version of past teams.
Dare to dream. Win this and go from there. Stranger things have happened.
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03-12-2023, 01:02 PM
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#55
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Franchise Player
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What are the line changes?
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03-12-2023, 02:00 PM
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#56
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Bonded
What are the line changes?
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Pelletier-Lindholm-Toffoli
Huberdeau-Kadri-Dube
Mangiapane-Backlund-Coleman
Lucic-Ruzicka-Duehr
Ritchie-Lewis
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03-12-2023, 02:16 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
Oilers with the 2nd highest odds in the NHL to win the cup. Yeah, ok. |
Yeah, higher than Boston. ROFL!!
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03-12-2023, 02:25 PM
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#58
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
With the two road wins I was starting to see a path.
Flames lose the Ducks and the Jets get badly outplayed but win in Florida and it's pretty dark.
Can change with a run of outcomes though I suppose.
Just doesn't feel like this team has a run in them though does it?
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Every time they need that game launch them on a run, they come up completely flat. There is something wrong in the room, and I would love to know what it is. Maybe it's just that they've turned on Sutter, but maybe there is more.
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03-12-2023, 02:25 PM
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#59
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Republic of Panama
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From what I am seeing, the players are giving just enough effort to try to get the coach fired.
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03-12-2023, 02:30 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mathgod
Oilers with the 2nd highest odds in the NHL to win the cup. Yeah, ok. |
I think these kings with Doughty would beat the Oilers in a 1st round series in less than 7 games
So much unearned hype
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