2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Jets and Flames talking trade about players with term left .

https://twitter.com/JamesJohnsonYYC/...kXMXhFwkQ&s=19

Maybe snag a Brad Lambert ?

Plus they have other Finns of note as well. Who's that Defenseman they have developing?

Wouldn’t mind Winnipeg’s 2023 first round pick. They are not a shoe in to make the playoffs. Granted not sure if they have a 2023 first round pick.

[keenan87]

Who is James Johnson?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Who is James Johnson?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Kadri came as advertised, decent 2-way 2nd line Center.

Not really his fault that the team doesn’t have a top line C. I really hope this franchise look hard at what exactly lindholm is and isn’t when deciding what to do with him.

Trading 2years of lindholm on his cap hit could have set the franchise up for a re-tool this summer, but nope. They just LOVE all their own pieces to a fault!

This season is trending to be one of Kadri's best season's of his career despite not really forming any chemistry with his wingers. He's been exactly as advertised so not sure why anyone would be down on him as IMO he's been far more noticeable than Lindholm who's been pretty quiet this season as a lot of his points have been due to having Toffoli on his wing who's been by far the Flames best forward this season.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It wasn't my proposal, heard it on the radio I forget who it was.
They had 1 similar where Newhook and 1 of Byram or Compher go to ARZ for Schmaltz whos is clearly inferior to Lindholm.

But its not completely out to lunch honestly.

Lindholm would be the PERFECT 2C for Colorado, and his cap hit is amazing + the flames could retain some as well.

Look at what people are going for now, the prices are crazy. To think Lindholm couldnt command an offer like that is crazy. He'd absolutely be worth it for the Avs, the only issue I had with it is that Makar is hurt an Byram has kind of stepped into his role so I'm not sure how open they would be to it but with a healthy Makar I think the Avs take that all day.

If the Flames could get that deal for Lindholm they should do it immediately that would be a massive win. I believe I suggested something similar in the summer after Johnny left and Tkachuk had requested a deal but not yet been moved and got shredded for it and that was after Lindholm was freshly off a 40 goal point per game season. That is the type of deal that retools the franchise almost immediately.

I do think if they did dangle Lindholm and retained 50% they would need as close to a can’t miss young player as they can get over an abundance of futures. I do feel like Lindholm has felt underpaid for the last 5 years and won’t be handing out discounts on the next one and with the Flames having 3 huge contracts for 30+ players they should avoid moving Lindholm.

Backlund I would love to keep as a Flame for his career but if he wants to move on then you let it happen by moving him.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Who is James Johnson?

Nobody

[MrMike]

I’ll take one Lambert, one Lucius and one Perfetti please.

Winnipeg makes a ton of sense, they like players with term. I could see them interested in a center and a dman.

[dammage79]

Lindholm= quietly the teams 2nd leading point producer. 4g back of Kadri.

Kadri= The teams 3rd leading pointsscorer. Tied for team worst -11 with looch.

I say if this is a bad year for Lindholm, we're looking pretty good.

I ask this, who's a better team mate lately? Strictly on ice. That's Lindy by a fairly healthy margin.

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Originally Posted by keenan87

Who is James Johnson?

Really annoying

[Hockey_Ninja]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Who is James Johnson?

He just a Flames Twitter analytics guy. I don’t think he has any actual intel on the org like that

[Calgary4LIfe]

The only issue for me trading Lindholm away is that he has been the Flames best centre since the late 90's. You are unlikely to fill the void organizationally with even multiple late 1st round picks. #1 centres and #1 defencemen are almost always gone by pick #10 - that's especially true with centres as defencemen can take a while longer.



When it comes to Backlund, I hope the organization does right by him somehow. One of the longest serving Flames, and he has never once complained about his deployment, which has been tough. Given his deployment, I argue that he probably should have won a Selke already.


Everyone else? Doesn't matter. I am not advocating for keeping the two above, just stating what I think. I don't think Huberdeau, Kadri and Weegar are going to be moving any time soon. Out of the three, I would most like to move Kadri, however.



Interesting times ahead. I can't even guess who is going to end up being moved, or how many players end up moving. I do think that changes need to be made as this is simply not really working. Great try by Treliving after losing Johnny for nothing, and Tkachuk making his demand, but it just didn't work out. Team plays a very good structure, so I am not going to blame Sutter. Huberdeau just hasn't worked out, Kadri just hasn't been good - definitely not consistently enough. I love Backlund, but his line shouldn't be the most dominant line most nights. Going to be an exciting few days here.

[stemit14]

I wonder if the only buyers that are left are the ones that are not willing to pay the high prices… so it might be too late to try and trade Lindholm, backlund, tanev or Hanifin while expecting a haul for any of them.


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[Bonded]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I wonder if the only buyers that are left are the ones that are not willing to pay the high prices… so it might be too late to try and trade Lindholm, backlund, tanev or Hanifin while expecting a haul for any of them.


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Much more likely the Flames just aren’t sellers than that. Lindholm would have a tonne of value

[Ashasx]

Lindholm will be 29 shortly after the start of next season, and unless you are an elite level talent, I think that is the sole reason why you should look to trade him because it is a significant risk that he doesn't live up to an 8 year contract - for a team that is already among the oldest in the league.

Yes, he's the best centre the team has had in my lifetime, but it will be even harder to fill his void if we don't prepare for it and maximize the value of our assets.

[Royle9]

Do you honestly think Lindholm is going to sign here for anything short of a huge pay increase in a years time?

I honestly dont think he re-signs with the Flames, so as much as I love the player and would like to keep him, you have to be realistic with it and trade the guy for maximum profit which is now.

Lindholm @ 50% retained today is worth a fortune, if someone's willing to pay for it you have to take it.

[Vinny01]

I think Lindholm, Toffoli, and Tanev should be the 3 players the flames are trying to sell. If retention really juices the return then do it.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Lindholm= quietly the teams 2nd leading point producer. 4g back of Kadri.

Kadri= The teams 3rd leading pointsscorer. Tied for team worst -11 with looch.

I say if this is a bad year for Lindholm, we're looking pretty good.

I ask this, who's a better team mate lately? Strictly on ice. That's Lindy by a fairly healthy margin.

The difference between Lindholm and Kadri is that one can create offense by himself and the other's offensive productuction is a byproduct of his winger's talents. Lindholm is the better player defensively but how much money and term do you really want to pay a two way center that's needs elite wingers to produce offense? He's probably going to get overpaid when you consider he's somewhat similar to Monahan in that he's not generating a lot of offense himself. The Huberdeau, Kadri, Markstrom, Coleman, Weegar contracts aren't going to age well and I'm not sure it makes sense to add another long term deal to another late 20's forward as these long term deals are starting to stack up like it did with the Sharks and Kings of the past.

This organization has been extremely poor when it comes to making difficult decisions on top players over the decades and the moment they start making them more proactively, the better the organization will be. Look at Nashville for example. Little doubt they will end up being a better team faster than the Flames as they are making the difficult decisions today and not waiting for their hands to be forced or setting themselves up for salary cap hell in the coming years.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I wonder if the only buyers that are left are the ones that are not willing to pay the high prices… so it might be too late to try and trade Lindholm, backlund, tanev or Hanifin while expecting a haul for any of them.


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Yeah there is a huge possibility that the flames left this far too late to try and maximize return by deadline. At least these guys are under contract and might have to be dealt in summer .

[saillias]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Who is James Johnson?

Hes a 20 year old blogger who is playing insider. I believe He pesters Ryan Leslie and Pat Steinberg in private messages who throw him what they're hearing occasionally. I noticed in the summer if you listened to what Leslie says on his radio hits or what Steinberg says on his daily show - and then see James tweets come up the same day - he's just getting what they say on the radio with slightly more context.

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