2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Flames1217]

Let the sale begin!!!!

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I have a feeling nothing is going to happen tomorrow despite the CP collective refreshing their pages nonstop all day..I hope I am wrong though.

Unless someone is overpaying like in the Jeannot trade, I agree. I think they will want to run it back next year expecting Markstrom to bounce back, which is reasonable. Not sure what they can do with the lack of scoring touch but with average Markstrom they should at least make the playoffs and then "anything can happen" I guess.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I have a feeling nothing is going to happen tomorrow despite the CP collective refreshing their pages nonstop all day..I hope I am wrong though.

A lot of teams have already made big moves so it's a little bit late for Treliving to announce a fire sale and find teams that still have assets to move or cap space to fit players in. It won't be the end of the world as the draft will be where they can make their big moves. Coyotes for example are in a bit of a bind as the takers for Chychrun have dwindled and it's a bit of egg on their face to sit him out this long and not be able to move him.

[kyuss275]

I’ll get roasted for this, but I think the #1 player that flames should trade is Backlund. This has nothing to do with his play. This has to do that if flames are going to extend him he will be 35 by that extension. The team is to old as is. Backlund in my opinion is playing the best hockey of his career right now. There is no better time to maximize on the return than now . If what sec212 is saying is true, that owners willing to eat money/cap space on last year of deal , could really help on the return. Granted they have now waited to long and a bunch of the heavy hitters are probably done with trading.

[Moneyhands23]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

I’ll get roasted for this, but I think the #1 player that flames should trade is Backlund. This has nothing to do with his play. This has to do that if flames are going to extend him he will be 35 by that extension. The team is to old as is. Backlund in my opinion is playing the best hockey of his career right now. There is no better time to maximize on the return than now . If what sec212 is saying is true, that owners willing to eat money/cap space on last year of deal , could really help on the return. Granted they have now waited to long and a bunch of the heavy hitters are probably done with trading.

Nope, I agree. He is worth moving. And really he can go play 2 years in Colorado or Carolina then sign his retirement contract with the Flames.

[CalgaryFan1988]

I know i'm beating a dead horse but having the ability to trade Weegar, Monahan, and Huberdeau this week in a notably deep draft would have been huge (Not to mention still having that additional 1st + cap space).

Kadri? Never liked Kadri, never wanted Kadri.

/rant

[bubbsy]

Kadri came as advertised, decent 2-way 2nd line Center.

Not really his fault that the team doesn’t have a top line C. I really hope this franchise look hard at what exactly lindholm is and isn’t when deciding what to do with him.

Trading 2years of lindholm on his cap hit could have set the franchise up for a re-tool this summer, but nope. They just LOVE all their own pieces to a fault!

[Sofa GM]

Originally Posted by Moneyhands23

Nope, I agree. He is worth moving. And really he can go play 2 years in Colorado or Carolina then sign his retirement contract with the Flames.

I would like to see both Backlund and Lindholm moved with retention to maximize return.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Kadri came as advertised, decent 2-way 2nd line Center.

Not really his fault that the team doesn’t have a top line C. I really hope this franchise look hard at what exactly lindholm is and isn’t when deciding what to do with him.

Trading 2years of lindholm on his cap hit could have set the franchise up for a re-tool this summer, but nope. They just LOVE all their own pieces to a fault!

Lindholm is a legit top line C, he is just not top tier.
He can’t be the best guy on his line or the line is very mediocre

I agreed if they can get good return, they should trade him. Same with Hanifin.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Sofa GM

I would like to see both Backlund and Lindholm moved with retention to maximize return.

But how will they replace those guys? I think it is exciting to think about the return on some of our assets but this team will not be entering a tankbuild because of one off year that has been due to poor goaltending.

At best I see them moving 1 of their centers and possibly a Dman and/or Toffoli but I can’t see them being in a spot where their top centers are Kadri followed by Ruzicka and Zary

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

But how will they replace those guys? I think it is exciting to think about the return on some of our assets but this team will not be entering a tankbuild because of one off year that has been due to poor goaltending.

At best I see them moving 1 of their centers and possibly a Dman and/or Toffoli but I can’t see them being in a spot where their top centers are Kadri followed by Ruzicka and Zary

Maybe they can find the next Tage Thompson….

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

But how will they replace those guys? I think it is exciting to think about the return on some of our assets but this team will not be entering a tankbuild because of one off year that has been due to poor goaltending.

At best I see them moving 1 of their centers and possibly a Dman and/or Toffoli but I can’t see them being in a spot where their top centers are Kadri followed by Ruzicka and Zary

Key is do the Flames think they will resign? if the answer is 50/50 chance or something like that.... Flames should be working to field offers.

Flames can't afford to lose any more players via UFA

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988

I know i'm beating a dead horse but having the ability to trade Weegar, Monahan, and Huberdeau this week in a notably deep draft would have been huge (Not to mention still having that additional 1st + cap space).

Kadri? Never liked Kadri, never wanted Kadri.

/rant

I would have rather traded Tkachuk for Necas+ than have a bunch of other rentals that we either walk to free agency in a good year or get draft picks for in a bad year. In my opinion the Florida deal only made sense if you extended the players coming in otherwise chase the futures deal for Tkachuk.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

But how will they replace those guys? I think it is exciting to think about the return on some of our assets but this team will not be entering a tankbuild because of one off year that has been due to poor goaltending.

At best I see them moving 1 of their centers and possibly a Dman and/or Toffoli but I can’t see them being in a spot where their top centers are Kadri followed by Ruzicka and Zary

Teams find a way to replace these guys, we cant be scared to make trades.

By trading away a Backlund/Lindholm you're going to get a premium asset that should be able to step in and help. The latter obviously worth more, but you're not trading away these guys and not receiving something that can help in return.

Colorado is looking for a #2C and have plenty of nice complimentary pieces/picks.

I saw a proposal of Newhook, Byram, 1st for Lindholm

You can then turn your picks/assets into other trades to help fill out your roster. You cant obviously trade away your #1 C and your #3 C and not have something to replace it today, but you can trade both and build for a better team next year.

Zary can come up and play 3C for the time being, give him some playtime in the NHL.
You could move Kardi up to a 1C and let Newhook play 2C etc.

There has to be a market for these guys, but you cant be scared to move on from 1 or all of them this year and build the team for next year. It really doesnt matter who's playing 1st/2nd/3rd line C anymore this year as the team is cooked.

Now's the perfect time to give the young kids a shot and finally see what we have moving forward for next season.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by flambers

Key is do the Flames think they will resign? if the answer is 50/50 chance or something like that.... Flames should be working to field offers.

Flames can't afford to lose any more players via UFA

I 100% agree with that. If this team wants to try and avoid a dark time in the franchise they will offload some players and add assets to give them more flexibility. They can’t keep retooling the team through free agency and expecting to get better.

They just need to look at selling off pieces at different positions so they are in a good spot to bounce back next year

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Teams find a way to replace these guys, we cant be scared to make trades.

By trading away a Backlund/Lindholm you're going to get a premium asset that should be able to step in and help. The latter obviously worth more, but you're not trading away these guys and not receiving something that can help in return.

Colorado is looking for a #2C and have plenty of nice complimentary pieces/picks.

I saw a proposal of Newhook, Byram, 1st for Lindholm

You can then turn your picks/assets into other trades to help fill out your roster. You cant obviously trade away your #1 C and your #3 C and not have something to replace it today, but you can trade both and build for a better team next year.

Zary can come up and play 3C for the time being, give him some playtime in the NHL.
You could move Kardi up to a 1C and let Newhook play 2C etc.

There has to be a market for these guys, but you cant be scared to move on from 1 or all of them this year and build the team for next year. It really doesnt matter who's playing 1st/2nd/3rd line C anymore this year as the team is cooked.

Now's the perfect time to give the young kids a shot and finally see what we have moving forward for next season.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I think there isn’t a chance in hell Colorado makes the deal you say you saw suggested however.

I think with the guys who are 1 year away from UFA I would trade different positions than weakening the position this team has been trying to soldifiy since the 90’s. I would move 1 of Lindholm/Backlund and then focus on moving Toffoli and Hanifin

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I think there isn’t a chance in hell Colorado makes the deal you say you saw suggested however.

It wasn't my proposal, heard it on the radio I forget who it was.
They had 1 similar where Newhook and 1 of Byram or Compher go to ARZ for Schmaltz whos is clearly inferior to Lindholm.

But its not completely out to lunch honestly.

Lindholm would be the PERFECT 2C for Colorado, and his cap hit is amazing + the flames could retain some as well.

Look at what people are going for now, the prices are crazy. To think Lindholm couldnt command an offer like that is crazy. He'd absolutely be worth it for the Avs, the only issue I had with it is that Makar is hurt an Byram has kind of stepped into his role so I'm not sure how open they would be to it but with a healthy Makar I think the Avs take that all day.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Royle9

It wasn't my proposal, heard it on the radio I forget who it was.
They had 1 similar where Newhook and 1 of Byram or Compher go to ARZ for Schmaltz whos is clearly inferior to Lindholm.

That was the PDOCast on SN 960 doing fantasy trades, so while not a rumor still not out of the realm of possibility

[dammage79]

Jets and Flames talking trade about players with term left .

https://twitter.com/JamesJohnsonYYC/...kXMXhFwkQ&s=19

Maybe snag a Brad Lambert ?

Plus they have other Finns of note as well. Who's that Defenseman they have developing?

[Toonage]

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