2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

Did they even rebuild in the late 90's?

It's not like 2004 was the culmination of a rebuild. Both their goalies went down and they lucked into a Hall of Fame caliber goalie by trading a 2nd and going on a Cinderella run. And then the game changed.

They've been re-tooling for 20 years now.

It should be considered a rebuild for sure - but was also a very different era where drafting was less of a certainty.

From 1996 - 2003 they drafted no better than 6th and no worse than 13th. Over those 8 drafts they made 8 1st round picks, and 13 second round picks.

They never really bottomed out - but wasn't because they weren't rebuilding they just never seem to be able to suck to that level.

But the trades for Iginla & Regehr happened in that time too - and Morris, Begin, Lydman, Betts, Saprykin, Kobasew, Lombardi, Phaneuf, Nystrom were all drafted through those years.

If Fata doesn't bust and Tkaczuk doesn't have concussion issues it's probably looked at different too.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by SaskyFlamesFan

I had heard an interview recently where Tkachuk said he wanted to sign long term but cap considerations prevented it. Might have been on Spittin Chiclets but can’t remember for sure. He was definitely open to and wanted to sign long term after his ELC though. Or at least he is saying that now.

Sounds like lip service to me.

[dustygoon]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Sounds like lip service to me.

I think he is right...i recall that both sides definitely tried to do a longer term contract before the bridge was signed. Not sure if the problem was trying to stay under Gio's "max" for the team or what. But it seemed like Tkachuk was open to the long term deal back then.

[sureLoss]

Parayko is missing from Blues practice...

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Sounds like lip service to me.

Yeah I don't know a polite way to say this so I'll just come out and say it.

Tkachuk is and always has been full of ####.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Atodaso

Did they even rebuild in the late 90's?

It's not like 2004 was the culmination of a rebuild. Both their goalies went down and they lucked into a Hall of Fame caliber goalie by trading a 2nd and going on a Cinderella run. And then the game changed.

They've been re-tooling for 20 years now.

The selling off of MacInnis, Nieuwy, Roberts, Fleury, etc. was needed as they couldn't afford to keep them. Getting pieces like Iginla, Regehr, Savard, etc. were necessary to take the Flames into the future. It might have been an era of no salary cap and the Flames were forced to sell, but I would still consider those years a 'rebuild', yes.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Parayko is missing from Blues practice...

Coilers fans getting the jergens and tissue paper ready.

[Toonage]

Sens were in on him too, even though they aren't likely a playoff team this year

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Also we can't have a 10 player core. That needs redefining. You core should be 3 forwards, 2 d and 1 goalie max. No more than 6 names. Anyone outside of that should be moveable for the right price. too much sentimentality here.

Why 6? That's completely arbitrary.
Bottom line is if the team wants to try and compete next season they need good players. They could flip Toffoli for futures, but then they are going to need a scorer like him for next season. How do they get that?

[GFG#1]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Yeah I don't know a polite way to say this so I'll just come out and say it.

Tkachuk is and always has been full of ####.

I think he was telling the truth with this comment, If memory serves me correctly that was when we swapped Neal for luc, and the retention on the Lucic contract gave us the space to sign Tkatchuk to his bridge deal without have it make a trade. Had Tre signed him to an 7 or 8 year deal it would have had to be more then 7 and somone would have had to be traded.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Flames out of a wild card spot with 66 points after 60 games played. Record is 3-4-3 in their last 10 games. And not sure if buying or selling.

Predators out of a wild card spot with 64 points but with 57 GAMES PLAYED AND HAVE WON THEIR LAST THREE. Selling. Just started the car with Tanner Jeonnot.

What the actual hell is going on with Treliving.

Has a little flying Murray Edwards devil over his shoulder telling him not to do it

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by blender

That would be a huge add for the Oilers.
What do you think it would take to get him and clear the cap space?

Salary would have to go the other way (Puljujarvi). I think for it to happen Nashville would have to retain a couple M at least. 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 2nd, Puljujarvi. Nashville retains half? Not sure if that's close or not.

[cral12]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

Flames out of a wild card spot with 66 points after 60 games played. Record is 3-4-3 in their last 10 games. And not sure if buying or selling.

Predators out of a wild card spot with 64 points but with 57 GAMES PLAYED AND HAVE WON THEIR LAST THREE. Selling. Just started the car with Tanner Jeonnot.

What the actual hell is going on with Treliving.

This! Though Treliving heavily influenced by ownership's wants...
They're delusional as to the state of the team...leads to poor decision making...The forecast calls for mediocreness, sadly.

[Derek Sutton]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Parayko is missing from Blues practice...

What a terrible contract; Parayko, Josh Anderson, Karlsson, why would any GM take these on, unless they are exchanging bad contract for bad contract (Lucic/ Neal deal).

[TheIronMaiden]

I'd love to see the Flames move a single piece out at the Trade deadline. Nothing Crazy. But try and prepare for next season because making the playoffs is starting to look difficult.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Selling would mean potentially more young players stepping in

They have driven the bus for this team lately. I don't think your chances would be significantly worsened

[OILFAN #81]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Parayko is missing from Blues practice...

Didn't he leave last game due to a blocked shot?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Selling would mean potentially more young players stepping in

They have driven the bus for this team lately. I don't think your chances would be significantly worsened

I have a hard time pointing out one player who is holding this team up. I know Backlund has been amazing, but no one should be off limits.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Selling would mean potentially more young players stepping in

They have driven the bus for this team lately. I don't think your chances would be significantly worsened

Yep, I'd think we could still make a push with a few bodies out the door and some younger replacements.

Similar to when we traded Glencross in 2015 and still pushed into the playoffs.

[Muta]

Wonder if Lewis would be a good add for a team at the deadline. Has performed admirably in his role, wouldn't cost a lot, would be terrific depth for a contender. Duehr should remain with this team full-time, IMO.