[Signing] Coyotes sign Valimaki to 1 year contract extension

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

That was my initial thought too - but he looked fine post injury in the SM-Liga and for most of that 20-21 season in Calgary.

Maybe he just was out of shape in 21-22 and clearly never was a fit with Sutter.

Kylington really taking off hurt him too as that really blocked his opportunities.

Sutter very much dislikes out of shape players I think. It may have takenb Val a little longer to develop his work ethic especially when it was about rehab and not playing. And he just has caught on now, plus the ice time has forced it.

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I'm talking Valimaki ... this is a Valimaki topic.

Now you want to expand it? Ok that's fine.

All three ... Bennett, Tkachuk and Valimaki were taken where they were projected.

Bennett was given many chances with many coaches.
Valimaki was very hurt twice, and nuked his development.
Tkachuk chose to play in Florida.

Not sure there's any fire here ... just smoke.

Coaches, injuries, any other excuses?

I wont argue, everything is fine, we are a contender year after year and players dont leave here and thrive, players dont come here and suddenly become much worse, happy?

[redmile04]

Originally Posted by powderjunkie

This also applies to:

BUF
TOR
FLA
CBJ
WPG
MIN
NAS
ARI

NYI - 2 CFs ditto
EDM ditto, though last year should barely count
VAN - twice to finals, but one was 29 years ago
OTT - 2 CFs and 1 finals. Ditto MTL plus a cup 30 years ago.

It sucks to be among the bottom 3rd of the league, especially when 4 of those teams have only been around for ~25 years, but it's not like we're some enigma. It's also worth noting that the other CAD teams are all within spitting distance of that criteria.

great company, guess its me complaining, i apologize for wanting my team to win, too much to ask for

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by redmile04

Coaches, injuries, any other excuses?

I wont argue, everything is fine, we are a contender year after year and players dont leave here and thrive, players dont come here and suddenly become much worse, happy?

Are you debating that he was actually injured? Are you suggesting there hasn't been any coaching changes?

We don't have to argue. I've never said everything is fine. I haven't suggested they've been a model franchise, that they've never made mistakes or that the team is a perennial contender.

Those are all just words you're putting at me to prove this homer case I guess.

All I said is losing Valimaki isn't something to lose sleep over. The rest is you arguing both sides.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Going to continue to ignore the ramifications of the Flames' different management decisions (truly a boring conversation on all levels) and focus on how well Juuso is playing.

Led AZ with 26:10 in yesterday's 1–0 shootout win over Tampa Bay. Despite the Yotes being outshot 47-26, Juuso posted the best on-ice expected goals percentage among defencemen on the team while playing the hardest minutes. An outstanding shutdown performance.

sounds like the goalie stole it

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by dino7c

sounds like the goalie stole it

Yotes outshot TB 14–8 with Juuso on the ice!

[redmile04]

https://twitter.com/TyVanDusen7/stat...syx6D_agA&s=19

[redmile04]

https://twitter.com/TommyFreshMusic/...N25McKUBw&s=19

[Jiri Hrdina]

I'll take "What are dumb tweets for $200 Alex".

Fox wasn't home-grown talent. He never was officially part of the organization.
Dumb tweet is dumb.

[ComixZone]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1628461752974442496

Friendly reminder from Bader that the Flames are not the best at assessing talent.

[Strange Brew]

Don't know who that guy is but he goes on to claim this is a Marty St. Louis and Mark Savard level of mistake by the Flames.

After watching last night, I am not pining for Valimaki. If he is so great, why did he sign a contract extension for a 50% reduction in pay?

[Goriders]

His penalty at the end definitely helped his team.

It didn’t work out for him here for numerous reasons. I’d way rather have Gilbert in the lineup than Valimaki.

It’s not the first time that a player has had to move to rekindle a career.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

https://twitter.com/user/status/1628461752974442496

Friendly reminder from Bader that the Flames are not the best at assessing talent.

We will see. Still doesn't beat anyone in the Flames top 4. I won't lose to much sleep on a 4-5 dman. Do you think Canes fans are still making threads about Lindholm and Hanfin lol. I like Gilbert in the bottom pair as well

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Don't know who that guy is but he goes on to claim this is a Marty St. Louis and Mark Savard level of mistake by the Flames.

After watching last night, I am not pining for Valimaki. If he is so great, why did he sign a contract extension for a 50% reduction in pay?

I think it's his injury history. On the Yotes he will get a major role on a "show it" contract, it's a good opportunity for him. I don't think he would've gotten anything better anywhere else at this point.


He did look really solid yesterday though, a lot different from what he did in Calgary in the preseason.

[TheIronMaiden]

I don't think that Valimaki would be the guy who pushes the team in a new direction. Sucks to lose him for nothing sure, but not a franchise defining loss.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I don't think that Valimaki would be the guy who pushes the team in a new direction. Sucks to lose him for nothing sure, but not a franchise defining loss.

Talk about St. Louis level of blunder is obviously really far out there at this point. But Valimaki has missed so much time that it's hard to say what his ceiling is, he does have some great tools. I can easily see him developing into a top 4 guy if he can stay healthy.

[Vinny01]

I think it was a poor decision to chose a 26 year old college free agent signing over a player that the team invested a 1st round pick for and is a couple of years younger. Mackey has been beyond mediocre so picking him over Jusso was a mistake.

[Erick Estrada]

I'm glad Valimaki has found himself a team but the reality is that the coach here didn't like him and wasn't going to play him.

[Galakanokis]

Not missing out on much if that is what Valimaki is offering. I was so high on him his rookie year but he still does not look like a solid defenseman. The skills are there but he still sucks at reads and positioning. Two poor decisions not counting the late penalty lead to goals. He had an absolutely brutal pinch on one play that eventually lead to a goal.

His hockey sense and awareness still suck. He's young and it could still come but he's not moving the needle on this Flames team.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm glad Valimaki has found himself a team but the reality is that the coach here didn't like him and wasn't going to play him.

The reality is he wasn’t good enough to play in the top 4, and now he’s on a team that has plenty of space for him there.