2022/2023 Trade Speculation and Rumours

[Sec214]

Unpopular opinion but…

Sell Backlund, Toffoli, Tanev, Lindholm and Hanafin/Weegar if the price is right. We can’t afford to sign any long term Extensions for 3 years. Take back any bad money for the next two seasons or admit the Huberdoh experiment was a mistake, Trade him at 2.5m Retained and accept a 2.5 Deadcap for the next 8 seasons… cheaper then a buyout.

Welcome to the Calgary Country Club.

Load up on picks and young players under team control(Term or Contract Status).

Murray Edwards can also #### off anytime.

Flames will miss the post season this year.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Higginson03

Would Canuck’s be willing to a Demko for Markstrom + +?

If only we hadn't tried to outsmart the whole hockey world by picking Schneider over Demko....

[Hockey_Ninja]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1628210739998752768

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by tkflames

If only we hadn't tried to outsmart the whole hockey world by picking Schneider over Demko....

I think you meant Mason McDonald

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

TSN insider trading:

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/insider...e-inqu~2633041

Blues are willing to include 2 1st round picks in a package for Meier
Jets and Vegas also inquired
LeBrun still thinks NJ and Canes are frontrunners

Orlov's name has started appearing on trade chatter
Caps haven't given up on re-signing Orlov
If the Caps get a strong offer they might move him

Unless something goes horribly wrong, Wings will not sell
Wings willing to take the chance they can re-sign Bertuzzi before July 1st

Preds talking calls on many players most notably on Ekholm
Not full on sellers yet, but have begun to investigate the market

I could have said this. lol
2 pts out of a playoff spot with 4 games in hand. Wings are having a great season.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

https://twitter.com/user/status/1628210739998752768

Doing nothing this deadline is the dumbest of all possible strategies here. Of course we seem to be doing it ####in anyways.

1. We are in our teams win now window. Because of contracts, this is likely the best possible season. Window essentially closed when lindholm requires a raise. To do nothing this season is essentially admitting defeat.
2. If you were to admit defeat, then the logical move would be to sell pieces that don't fit into the next competition window. If we're retooling instead of rebuilding, that next window is probably in 3-4 seasons when the cap is slated to increase rapidly. Toffoli is chief of these and likely to fetch a good price. Imo hanifin can't be expected to stay beyond this contract, so him too.
3. If you won't admit defeat, then we should be making any moves we can to maximize our chance this season, prior to additional cap woes from massive huby contract and the fair weegar raise. I wouldn't sell our 1st, but put pretty much everything else on the table.

Doing nothing in our current situation essentially assures missing the playoffs or early (5> games) playoff exit, and reduces our chances with this roster. Selling has the duel benefit of changing our team makeup and thus the competition window, while also adding some excitement for the best draft in a decade. Buying at least adds some excitement.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Totally disagree. Buying and missing the playoffs or bowing out quickly would be the worst decision.
Broader re-tooling is better left to the off-season. There is no urgency to make a bunch of moves at this deadline.
Standing pat is fine with me. Yes I would prefer the initiation of a rebuild but again it ain't happening.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Doing nothing this deadline is the dumbest of all possible strategies here. Of course we seem to be doing it ####in anyways.

Players with term usually don't get traded at the deadline. If you are expecting selling then prepare to be disappointed. Offseason will be hockey trades and re-tooling unless the Flames ownership feels dragged into a rebuild which I doubt happens before next deadline.

[Poe969]

If they decide to sell, the offseason makes sense but think of it this way, if you're going to trade Lindholm in the summer or next season, why nit now? If you're trading him, your going in to a retool/rebuild or whatever you want to call it. Trade him now and retain salary. What would a team give to add Lindholm at 3 million for all of next season and the playoffs this year.

If a team will over pay, everyone should be available.

[madmike]

I think they should just stand pat. This season may be a writeoff, but the team isn’t as bad as it sometimes looks.

Next year they’ll have players who are more familiar with one another and hopefully better goaltending (let’s be honest - it can’t really be worse).

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Poe969

If they decide to sell, the offseason makes sense but think of it this way, if you're going to trade Lindholm in the summer or next season, why nit now? If you're trading him, your going in to a retool/rebuild or whatever you want to call it. Trade him now and retain salary. What would a team give to add Lindholm at 3 million for all of next season and the playoffs this year.

If a team will over pay, everyone should be available.

I think they should have those conversations but I don’t think the flames can afford to or should retain salary. They are up against it and a guy like Lindholm at his current cap hit has plenty of value.

[sureLoss]

Friedman on the flames:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...each-nhl-team/

17. Calgary Flames: The Flames held a team meeting last weekend, following a tumultuous 36 hours where they lost to Detroit and player agent Allan Walsh criticized the “negativity” around the team. The message was simple: Ignore the noise and concentrate on the task. As tough as everything’s been, there were 27 games remaining and two points between them and the playoffs. For one night, it appeared the tweet and the meeting had the desired effect, as Calgary beat the Rangers in a great game.

The Flames wake up Wednesday four points behind Minnesota. Someone pointed out they have an easy schedule to finish the season, but it’s kind of warped because the West is weaker than the East. So, all the Western teams technically have easier schedules. They do have 10 games against Anaheim, Arizona, Chicago, San Jose and Vancouver.

They looked into Schenn, but the price looks like it went higher than they want to pay. They’ve kicked tires on Boeser. Depending on where this goes, this could be a huge offseason as six key players enter their last years before becoming UFAs in 2024.

[Ozy_Flame]

I'm on the side of take advantage of people wanting a premium and willing to pay for playoff panic. We have a good crop of experienced and productive performers that could really help the Flames with youth and picks this summer. More to play with, so to speak.

Put out high prices, and see if anyone snags. Treliving wouldn't be doing his job if he wasn't working the phones.

[flambers]

I would also like the Flames to set a direction at the trade deadline, (i.e. they should be sellers and obtain some picks for the older depth guys)

If they don't add, they for sure will have an issue with their depth at defense. In case they secure a wild card spot. Injuries are likely to happen

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Poe969

If they decide to sell, the offseason makes sense but think of it this way, if you're going to trade Lindholm in the summer or next season, why nit now? If you're trading him, your going in to a retool/rebuild or whatever you want to call it. Trade him now and retain salary. What would a team give to add Lindholm at 3 million for all of next season and the playoffs this year.

If a team will over pay, everyone should be available.

Most teams will need to be salary in and salary out which makes things more complicated but I still also think the Flames will try and re-tool and not rebuild.

[marsplasticeraser]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Doing nothing this deadline is the dumbest of all possible strategies here. Of course we seem to be doing it ####in anyways.

1. We are in our teams win now window. Because of contracts, this is likely the best possible season. Window essentially closed when lindholm requires a raise. To do nothing this season is essentially admitting defeat.
2. If you were to admit defeat, then the logical move would be to sell pieces that don't fit into the next competition window. If we're retooling instead of rebuilding, that next window is probably in 3-4 seasons when the cap is slated to increase rapidly. Toffoli is chief of these and likely to fetch a good price. Imo hanifin can't be expected to stay beyond this contract, so him too.
3. If you won't admit defeat, then we should be making any moves we can to maximize our chance this season, prior to additional cap woes from massive huby contract and the fair weegar raise. I wouldn't sell our 1st, but put pretty much everything else on the table.

Doing nothing in our current situation essentially assures missing the playoffs or early (5> games) playoff exit, and reduces our chances with this roster. Selling has the duel benefit of changing our team makeup and thus the competition window, while also adding some excitement for the best draft in a decade. Buying at least adds some excitement.

Yes we are structured to be in win-now mode. But we aren't even close to performing like a win now team. Yes we should be a good team, but with quite a few players having down years, we aren't a good team.

Sometimes you make a plan and it doesn't work. There's literally no assets we can acquire that will make us a playoff contender, so it's futile to acquire assets.

[Saqe]

It would be so ass backwards for them to now sell Lindholm. You just signed three 30 years olds to max length deals in order to be competitive. Pick a direction and stick with it, no direction is the worst that they can do.


They need to give this new group of players at least another year or two to make something happen. After that core guys like Kadri, Backlund, Tanev and Markstrom will be 35 and you can throw in the towel and start selling.

[Yeah_Baby]

Yeah, next year is the one where you make the harder decisions based on your pending UFAs.

[ah123]

Based on what we have seen this year, selling is the way to go. Not to tear down, but to do an on-the-fly retool

This could be the best time to trade some of the players that only have one/two years left on the contract, for prospects that could step in next year.

[Macho0978]

Selling would be the best option but I doubt we sell this close to the playoffs.

Doing nothing is the 2nd best option. Even though selling would make more sense there is still value in making the playoffs and getting guys more playoff experience. Just can't afford to buy, especially for rentals.