02-09-2023, 12:03 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Teroy
This bs about Sutter and not complimenting the players is just that, bs. These guys get paid big bucks to play, not to get compliments. If you were doing as poorly in your job and being paid handsomely would you expect compliments. Get serious! What he needs to do sit some of these hot shots in the press box. These are not kids.
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Maybe Sutter and Huberdeau can actually bond over doing a terrible job after getting a big extension
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02-09-2023, 12:10 PM
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#62
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Originally Posted by Cheese
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Interesting -- Samuels-Thomas was one of the referees at the Wranglers game last week. It was funny because he was 6'4, and the other referee was a female who was probably around 5'3.
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02-09-2023, 12:12 PM
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#63
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teroy
This bs about Sutter and not complimenting the players is just that, bs. These guys get paid big bucks to play, not to get compliments. If you were doing as poorly in your job and being paid handsomely would you expect compliments. Get serious! What he needs to do sit some of these hot shots in the press box. These are not kids.
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No said he needs to compliment them. He also doesn't need to take shots at them constantly either.
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02-09-2023, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG
I don't understand how the Flames % chance of making playoffs is near 90% if they win, and 83% if they lose...unless I'm not understanding those stats correctly?
I'm sure it takes remaining strength of schedule in consideration, but I currently see the Flames chances of making post-season as unlikely...
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90% seems high but "unlikely" is pessimistic
Being better than Minny the rest of the way doesn't seem like that tall of a task. Within 6 points of 5 playoff spots available to them. Win tonight and you are also 3 back of LA with a game in hand.
Win tonight and you are either ahead of Minny or 4 back of Vegas with a game in hand
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02-09-2023, 12:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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I'm also for pairing up the whipping boys (Lindy, Huby)
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02-09-2023, 12:18 PM
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#66
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I think its why he doesn't last long or his effectiveness wears thin.
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LOL doesn't last long.
He will probably be in the HHOF one day and his average tenure is likely longer than 98% of NHL coaches.
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02-09-2023, 12:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teroy
This bs about Sutter and not complimenting the players is just that, bs. These guys get paid big bucks to play, not to get compliments. If you were doing as poorly in your job and being paid handsomely would you expect compliments. Get serious! What he needs to do sit some of these hot shots in the press box. These are not kids.
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No one asked him to compliment his team. No one asked about whether his team has stars or their team has stars. He seems to think spewing bs and playing mind games will make his team play better. It doesn't. And understandably makes his players get tired of him.
Like lots of coaches over the years, he assumes - and lots of fans and posters on here seem to assume - that since he has a good record of success, all of his tendencies are part of that success. Not so. Just as players have holes in their games, so can coaches. Seems to me the more pressure he's under, the worse Sutter's worst tendencies get...which eventually leads to a death spiral. Not there yet but he could brake the fall by checking himself on garbage like this.
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02-09-2023, 12:27 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
No said he needs to compliment them. He also doesn't need to take shots at them constantly either.
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Oh boo hoo
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02-09-2023, 12:27 PM
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I'm not inclined to think the players are paying too close attention to what he's saying in front of the press. Positve or negative.
What I do think happens is that coach will pump up a players tires in the media, and those same reporters will then go to the player and talk to him about how he's playing well and doing great. I suspect Sutter loathes this which is why he's usually not doling out compliments too often.
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02-09-2023, 12:44 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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I will donate $20 to CP if Huberdeau gets 3 points tonight..
I know, 1% chance of that actually happening, but here's to breaking the lack of offense curse..
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02-09-2023, 12:44 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
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02-09-2023, 12:50 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Pelletier carrying the puck? High slot?
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02-09-2023, 12:54 PM
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Gilbert would need waivers after tonight's game if sent down, correct?
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02-09-2023, 01:23 PM
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Looking forward to PP1 being a disaster.
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02-09-2023, 01:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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so long as they ####ing shoot it
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02-09-2023, 01:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Pelletier, Hubs and Kadri got absolutely worked last game 5 on 5
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02-09-2023, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
90% seems high but "unlikely" is pessimistic
Being better than Minny the rest of the way doesn't seem like that tall of a task. Within 6 points of 5 playoff spots available to them. Win tonight and you are also 3 back of LA with a game in hand.
Win tonight and you are either ahead of Minny or 4 back of Vegas with a game in hand
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Even your explanation makes it sound like 50/50...or at best 60/40.
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02-09-2023, 02:01 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fan in Exile
No one asked him to compliment his team. No one asked about whether his team has stars or their team has stars. He seems to think spewing bs and playing mind games will make his team play better. It doesn't. And understandably makes his players get tired of him.
Like lots of coaches over the years, he assumes - and lots of fans and posters on here seem to assume - that since he has a good record of success, all of his tendencies are part of that success. Not so. Just as players have holes in their games, so can coaches. Seems to me the more pressure he's under, the worse Sutter's worst tendencies get...which eventually leads to a death spiral. Not there yet but he could brake the fall by checking himself on garbage like this.
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His 2 Stanley Cup titles and more than 700 career coaching wins seem to counteract with your criticisms.
The coaches job is not to coddle players or pump their tires to the media. It's to push the players buttons and try to get the most you can out of them. His track record of doing so also speaks for itself and whether it bothers you or not is completely irrelevant.
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02-09-2023, 02:02 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calumniate
Pelletier, Hubs and Kadri got absolutely worked last game 5 on 5
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I saw Lucic - Ruzicka - Lewis hemmed in their zone all game long.
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02-09-2023, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG
Even your explanation makes it sound like 50/50...or at best 60/40.
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well "unlikely" is worse than that
I would put it at 65% personally. Its not like its 7 teams fighting over 2 spots
Its 7 teams fighting over 5 spots. Somebody will drop, play decent hockey and you will make it. Teams like Minny, Vegas, Seattle, LA are all showing cracks IMO. Preds went on a bit of a run but that was largely goaltending and I can't see that as sustainable.
Despite what you hear on CP Vladar has been getting the bulk of the starts of late and his points percentage speaks for itself
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