I first started watching this show only for the novelty of it being filmed locally, as I'm pretty much zombied out, but the show has really won me over. I appreciated the care they took to show the developing relationship between Elllie and Joel in the last episode. You knew it was coming, you knew it had to happen, but it was sweet, funny, natural and handled deftly.
I guess I'm in the minority - I think Bella Ramsey has nailed her character. I have no familiarity with the game version of Ellie, but to me, she is very convincing as a 14 year old with no experiences prior to the pandemic, going out on her first road trip/adventure. I thought her scene playing Travis Bickle in the gas station bathroom was excellent, and I have no trouble with any of her facial movements/expressions in the show. He reaction after shooting Bryan was very believable. That scene was rather haunting, Bryan begging for his life and asking to go see his mom.
Something about a person calling for their mother as they're dying just destroys me. I still shudder at Giovanni Ribisi's final scene in Saving Private Ryan.
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I first started watching this show only for the novelty of it being filmed locally, as I'm pretty much zombied out, but the show has really won me over. I appreciated the care they took to show the developing relationship between Elllie and Joel in the last episode. You knew it was coming, you knew it had to happen, but it was sweet, funny, natural and handled deftly.
I guess I'm in the minority - I think Bella Ramsey has nailed her character. I have no familiarity with the game version of Ellie, but to me, she is very convincing as a 14 year old with no experiences prior to the pandemic, going out on her first road trip/adventure. I thought her scene playing Travis Bickle in the gas station bathroom was excellent, and I have no trouble with any of her facial movements/expressions in the show. He reaction after shooting Bryan was very believable. That scene was rather haunting, Bryan begging for his life and asking to go see his mom.
To be fair, even in the game, the apocalyptic factor was always kinda in the background vs forefront of the story. So the lack of emphasis is "the world is ####" vs focus on the relationship between Ellie and Joel might have helped to keep you from getting further zombied out.
And yet at the ending of episode 3 when Ellie and Joel enter Bill's house the lights were still on throughout the house. While it doesn't define how long they were dead, it appears to be in the range of weeks so that diesel generator would have long run out of fuel. I kind of feel that was a pretty obvious miss.
"They don't say how long it's been since Frank & Bill died, but it appears to be weeks" based on... ???
They don't show how Bill rigged up the power. They show him in 2003 firing up a generator; they don't show how much fuel storage he has. Presumably in the intervening 20 years he beefed up the system, so that he didn't have to perpetually keep some rinky-dink fuel tank topped up every day.
"They don't say how long it's been since Frank & Bill died, but it appears to be weeks" based on... ???
They don't show how Bill rigged up the power. They show him in 2003 firing up a generator; they don't show how much fuel storage he has. Presumably in the intervening 20 years he beefed up the system, so that he didn't have to perpetually keep some rinky-dink fuel tank topped up every day.
Wasn't it a few pages back someone had already been talking about natural gas for the stove and electricity?
I haven't seen the ep yet, but was there actually a small generator in the shot that's on that is being complained about for being a mistake or plot hole?
Wasn't it a few pages back someone had already been talking about natural gas for the stove and electricity?
I haven't seen the ep yet, but was there actually a small generator in the shot that's on that is being complained about for being a mistake or plot hole?
Yes, Torture and CroFlames poked fun at the premise of Bill going to the gas plant and simply opening a valve to restore natural gas supply to his house:
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- Offerman was an extreme doomsday prepper. He thought of everything, including how to rebuild a battery. The more unrealistic thing is that his generator lasting 20 years. Also, suspend your belief a little bit for crying out loud. It's a zombie show.
I thought the most unrealistic thing was that he just turned a valve on the natural gas plant and all of a sudden he had electricity and gas for his stove.
There was a shot of Bill starting a generator soon after the pandemic began ca. 2003. The generator wasn't shown thereafter.
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A couple days at most, I think. Based on the 80s song popping up on the radio just before they leave (?)
Yeah, I didn't notice it until the second time I watched, but basically looked like Bill and Frank went to bed around the time Joel and co left the Boston QZ based on that whole music playlist thing. They definitely made it seem like longer though, with how much dust had collected in the house and on the table in the interim
"They don't say how long it's been since Frank & Bill died, but it appears to be weeks" based on... ???
They don't show how Bill rigged up the power. They show him in 2003 firing up a generator; they don't show how much fuel storage he has. Presumably in the intervening 20 years he beefed up the system, so that he didn't have to perpetually keep some rinky-dink fuel tank topped up every day.
Based on the neglected condition of the flowers at the front of the house that Joel noted as they walked on the property indicating that all was not well. As well dust on the furniture. It's pretty clear it was intended to be more than a few days.
I don't want to sidetrack the discussion but he was clearly using a diesel generator in his backyard to power the house. It's possible he gathered up a bunch of solar panels over the years but the reality is that electricity would be pretty scarce without power plants operating so electricity on for weeks on end seems highly unlikely without someone around to ensure continuous operation of generators.
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Based on the neglected condition of the flowers at the front of the house that Joel noted as they walked on the property indicating that all was not well. As well dust on the furniture. It's pretty clear it was intended to be more than a few days.
Yes, the pot of ornamental (probably 'annual') flowers were dried up and dying. I'm not a green thumb, but in my experience it doesn't take long for such plants to die without careful watering. (I've inadvertently killed my fair share of plants because I skipped watering for a couple days...) I didn't notice any particular "dust on the furniture". I did notice that the food on the table, Bill & Frank's last meal, had barely gone moldy/rotten. To me it was implied to be only a few days.
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I don't want to sidetrack the discussion but he was clearly using a diesel generator in his backyard to power the house. It's possible he gathered up a bunch of solar panels over the years but the reality is that electricity would be pretty scarce without power plants operating so electricity on for weeks on end seems highly unlikely without someone around to ensure continuous operation of generators.
This isn't a "sidetrack", it's the discussion at hand. You're basically stating that you perceive some 'errors' in the show's narrative/presentation that have interfered with your suspension of disbelief. It's fine; I already stated that the short scene at the beginning of the episode set "10 miles west of Boston" but clearly in the Rockies made me wrinkle my nose in disbelief.
As I pointed out, it shows Bill firing up a generator in 2003. Clearly circa 2003 he was using a generator. Presumably in 2023 he was still using a generator, but it's not necessarily the same generator—I would find it very hard to believe said generator would last 20 years—and at no point does it actually show how much fuel he keeps stored. As I said, presumably someone as industrious as Bill would have rigged up a significant fuel supply such that he doesn't have to top up a small tank every day or two. I don't know what you're picturing, but I'm picturing something like a 1000-gallon tank, which would keep a generator running for weeks. If you can believe the conceit that he reinstated the town's natural gas supply, he also could have replaced the diesel generator with a gas-fired one.
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Based on the neglected condition of the flowers at the front of the house that Joel noted as they walked on the property indicating that all was not well. As well dust on the furniture. It's pretty clear it was intended to be more than a few days.
I don't want to sidetrack the discussion but he was clearly using a diesel generator in his backyard to power the house. It's possible he gathered up a bunch of solar panels over the years but the reality is that electricity would be pretty scarce without power plants operating so electricity on for weeks on end seems highly unlikely without someone around to ensure continuous operation of generators.
Dust??? Come on, it's obviously cordyceps spores. They're not toxic enough in countryside and open air areas, but they exist. Kinda like how everything is covered in dust in interstellar.
I knew that wasn't Calaway Park! Their coaster is like 1/3 of the size.
The raised track in the background looked like it
I figured it was one of those things where they added a bunch of extra coaster in the foreground, like all the downtown augmentations they did to create "boston"
One of the issues I have with most zombie media is trying not to think about the time scale issue, and how quickly the human body would die and rot with no self preservation instinct. During a real zombie apocalypse you should realistically only have to survive for a few months, or until winter at most until all of the zombies are completely rotted/frozen. I had put TLOU in this same bucket, thinking that without any significant sources of food the human hosts would die quickly and there's no way that there'd be roving gangs of infected years later. Then I saw this
